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Ex-Tiger Coach Dye Says Moving The Iron Bowl Aided Alabama

gfx - they said itFormer Auburn coach Pat Dye believes he knows who’s responsible for Alabama’s run of four national titles in 22 seasons — Pat Dye.  Well, sort of.

According to the ex-coach, his 1981 push to move the Iron Bowl out of Birmingham and onto the campuses of Auburn and Alabama wound up providing a bigger boost to the Tide than to the Tigers.

Let’s let him tell it:


“(Paul Bryant) said, ‘I guess you’re going to want to take the Auburn-Alabama game to Auburn.  I said, ‘We’re going to take it to Auburn.’  He said, ‘Not as long as I’m coaching.’  I said, ‘You ain’t going to coach forever.’  He said, ‘We’ve got a contract through ’88.’  I said, ‘We’re going to play ’89 in Auburn,’ and we did…

If you look at what’s happened since ’89, I would say that it’s a great thing for Auburn but Alabama has really benefited more from it than Auburn because it got their games out of Birmingham.  Now the Alabama fans have a gameday experience that they couldn’t have in Birmingham around Legion Field — tailgating and getting back on campus.  Look at the facilities that they’ve built since 1989.  I’m sure it’s just like it is at Auburn, they have benefited from an academic standpoint also because of all the money that football generates.

It’s been good for both schools.  It’s the way it should be now.”


Good for both schools, but better for Alabama.  According to Dye.  And thanks to Dye.

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Wow Evening Headlines 12/5/2012

Reports out of Knoxville and Louisville are citing sources saying Charlie Strong has turned down contract offer to coach Tennessee…
Strong had been considered a leading candidate to take open Tennesee job
Arkansas introduces  Bret Bielema as its head coach, bringing to an end a nearly eight-month search for Bobby Petrino’s long-term replacement
Arkansas will pay  Bielema $3.2 million per year over six years
Auburn search committee member Bo Jackson on new hire Gus Malzahn: “Actually, we were surprised that he was as sharp as he was.”
Ex-Auburn coach Pat Dye says he supports Gus Malzahn but would have hired Alabama defensive coordinator Kirby Smart
This year’s SEC Championship Game was the most watched college football game of the season
NCAA President Mark Emmert says he is determined to provide college athletes with $2,000 for expenses not covered by scholarships
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WOW Headlines – 12/5/12

Auburn search committee member Bo Jackson on new hire Gus Malzahn: “Actually, we were surprised that he was as sharp as he was.”
Arkansas will pay new coach Bret Bielema $3.2 million per year over six years
Former South Carolina assistant and Southern Miss head coach Ellis Johnson expected to interview for defensive coordinator position at Auburn
Oklahoma State’s Mike Gundy and Louisville’s Charlie Strong are reportedly re-working deals at current schools rather than taking Tennessee position
Ex-Auburn coach Pat Dye says he supports Gus Malzahn but would have hired Alabama defensive coordinator Kirby Smart
This year’s SEC Championship Game was the most watched college football game of the season
Former Tennessee coach Phillip Fulmer and former LSU RB Charles Alexander inducted into College Football Hall of Fame last night
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WOW Headlines – 10/23/12

Former Auburn coach Pat Dye says Alabama is “the best college football team I ever saw.”
Georgia S Shawn Williams called out a number of his defense teammates saying that the whole unit is playing “soft”
Georgia LB Jarvis Jones has a “good chance” of being healthy enough to play against Florida on Saturday
Tennessee coach Derek Dooley says of his team: “I think their spirit is broken and it should be.”
Missouri QB James Franklin is doubtful for Saturday’s game with Kentucky
Mississippi State is #12 in the BCS but their schedule is ranked #124 and their three SEC wins have come against teams with a combined 0-14 SEC record
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SEC Headlines 9/25/2012

SEC East

1. In the past 20 years, four quarterbacks have beaten Tennessee at least three times.  Georgia’s Aaron Murray can join that group with a win Saturday.

2. Georgia’s offense leads the nation with 35 plays 20 yards or longer.

3. Tennessee coach Derek Dooley on Georgia’s John Jenkins: “That sucker is a pretty good nose guard, and he is big.”

4. Big difference between last year and this year’s Florida teams?  Will Muschamp says it’s the depth to withstand injuries. The up-and-down career of Andre Debose.

5. Resetting expectations at Mizzou – and why this weekend’s game at UCF is key to a winning season.

6. Mizzou quarterback James Franklin on pain in his shoulder: It’s almost like I’m worried about doing it (delivering throws) because the pain is going to be there and I doubt that I’ll be able to put something on this throw or make that type of throw.”

7. Kentucky quarterback Maxwell Smith is day-to-day – “who is UK’s next best quarterback?”

8. What should Kentucky AD Mitch Barnhart do about Joker Phillips?  Nothing, until the Wildcats lose seven games.

9. Big problem facing Vanderbilt? Lack of size.

SEC West

10. Dan Mullen and the 4-0 Mississippi State Bulldogs have their goals set high: “The opportunity could be there for championships.”

11. Pat Dye on Auburn’s defense Saturday night: “It was one of the most amazing transitions I’ve seen.”

12. Nick Saban on the 2012 version of his team: ”We probably have a team that doesn’t have as many defined stars as we’ve had in the past.”

13. Ole Mis coach Hugh Freeze on Alabama: “They’re the gold standard in football right now.”

14. Rebels quarterback Bo Wallace: “The shoulder is tight, but I’m optimistic.”

15. Les Miles on chewing out players during a game with TV cameras rolling: “We occasionally have a conversation that cannot wait until I get to the confines of a locker room.”

16. Miles took three questions about left tackle Josh Dworaczyk in Monday’s press conference.

17. Jim Harris on John L. Smith:” Hog fans may want him returned to Utah yesterday, but one can’t help but laugh with him or at him, or both. Or maybe cry for him.”

18. Why Texas A&M should still worry about the Razorbacks: “It’s the freedom that can come with utter failure.”

SEC/College News

19. Auburn student coach Joseph Bagwell  – who passed away Saturday -“was born with literally half a heart — without a right ventricle.”

20. Harvey Updyke arrested for an incident involving a returned lawn mower.

21. What rights do college athletes retain when signing NCAA paperwork?

22. Florida State coach Jimbo Fisher on the Heisman Trophy.  “Like I say, that’s for show dogs.”

23. More than $1 billion spent on stadium refurbishments in the state of Texas.

24. FBS football players - 17 percent less likely to graduate then their male peers.

25. The Pac-12 fired three refs that have found work in the NFL.

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Tweeting The SEC 9/10/12

A roundup of some our favorite tweets regarding SEC football.

Tennessee Football on Saturday’s games vs. Florida

Dave Matter – Columbia Tribune

Matt Hayes – Sporting News

Paul Finebaum quotes Pat Dye

Wes Rucker on Tennessee’s offense

ESPN’s Edward Aschoff on Ole Miss vs. Texas

Vanderbilt Coach James Franklin

Kendall Rogers


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Legendary Ex-Coaches Believe Bama’s Still Better Than LSU

In 2008, when Ole Miss upset Florida in The Swamp — inspiring Tim Tebow’s “promise” speech — no one walked away saying, “Mississippi is clearly the better team.”  Ole Miss had played the best game on that day, but they weren’t a better team than Florida.

Upsets happen.  No one thought Chaminade was really better than Virginia way in 1982.  So it shouldn’t surprise folks that there are still plenty of people who believe Alabama’s roster is better than LSU’s. 

Most of those people don’t live in Louisiana, of course.

Mike Griffith of The Knoxville News Sentinel reports that a number of ex-coaching greats voting in the Scripps Legend Poll still say Bama’s the best team in the land.

Gene Stallings:  “I think if they played the game 10 times, Alabama would win seven of them.  The best team doesn’t always win.”

Vince Dooley:  “I still believe Alabama would win two out of three times.  I think Alabama is a little better.  It was just a classic, between two of the best teams, just physical athletes, that I can remember at one time in a season.”

John Cooper:  “It was a great defensive game, two great teams, very conservative game plans.  I still think Alabama was the best team but didn’t win that game.  I think if they played five times, Alabama would win three of them.”

So how did Alabama lose?  “It’s the damn kicking game,” Pat Dye said.  “The kicking game determines close games.  Alabama missed four field goals, and they let them (punt) the ball 72 yards.  The only mistake LSU had in the kicking game was the flagrant foul on the punt return.”

From there, the ex-coaches breakdown an area of the game that I myself took issue with on Saturday night — Nick Saban’s decision to keep attempting long field goals.

Alabama clearly did not have anyone capable of connecting on 40+ yard field goals.  Knowing points would be at a premium, Saban continued to take shots regardless.  Had he punted LSU deep into its own territory time and again in the first half, who knows how things might have played out.  Clearly, the Tigers weren’t going to move the ball any farther on Bama than Bama did on LSU.

But that’s history at this point.  And LSU went into Tuscaloosa and beat Alabama on its home field.  End of story.  Whether they’d win one out of 10 or 10 out of 10 means nothing.  They won the game they played.

As a New England fan, I can tell you that the Patriots weren’t a better team than the St. Louis Rams in 2001.  But for one night, they were.  And in 2007 — dagnabbit — the Patriots were a much better team than the New York Giants… except for the night that counted most.

LSU was better than Alabama when it counted.  Regardless of who has the better roster and the most talent, all that matters is the final score from last Saturday night.

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Ex-AU Coach Dye Not Impressed With Auburn, Carolina

Former Auburn coach Pat Dye — a member of the Scripps Legend Poll — wasn’t impressed by South Carolina’s 54-3 beatdown of Kentucky:

“I still don’t like South Carolina.  Hell no, it was against Kentucky.  They could score 60 or 70 points against Kentucky.  Let them throw for 300 yards against Alabama or LSU, then I’ll be impressed with South Carolina.”

The 71-year-old ex-coach also made it clear to The Knoxville News Sentinel that he’s not too impressed by this year’s Auburn squad.  In his view, they’re not in the upper half of the SEC.  “You got LSU and Alabama at the top, then under that you got Arkansas, South Carolina, Georgia and Florida.”

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SEC Headlines – 10/5/11 Part Three

I was going to expound on some of the following topics, but I’m having to run out the door.  So instead, here’s another wave of headlines for you:

1.  Auburn’s defense showed improvement on Saturday, but Arkansas will be a tougher test.

2.  Nick Saban says emotional teams “have severe ups and downs.”

3.  Houston Nutt says Randall Mackey is Ole Miss’ quarterback for “right now.”

4.  Mississippi State is 0-8 under Dan Mullen when the Dogs fail to rush for at least 150 yards.

5.  Georgia legend Vince Dooley will watch the Georgia-Tennessee game at Derek’s house — away from prying eyes — this weekend.

6.  The elder Dooley, Gene Stallings and Pat Dye all believe Alabama is the best team in the country.

7.  Mark Richt will be going for win #100 on Saturday.   (Link Fixed)

8.  Mark Bradley of The AJC suggests the SEC needs Missouri more for its image than for football.  (Good stuff, check it out.)

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SEC Headlines 8/2/2011 Afternoon Edition

1. South Carolina assistant coach G.A. Mangus gets punished where it really hurts - in the wallet.

2. Breaking down the Florida linebacking corps.

3. The last 26 times LSU has appeared on an ESPN network, it has won the game.

4. “mark ingram glovs”(sic) and the T-Town Menswear controversy

5. Gene Stalling and Pat Dye get buried in sand together.


6. 10 of 29 Letter of Intent signees – no-shows.

7. Did you know?  Yahoo! Sports draws more unique visitors than

8. Want to win at fantasy football?  Learn to manage risk.

9. Oklahoma fan and a Texas fan – both in the hospital with one in critical condition – after getting into a knife fight.

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