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Ohio State’s Meyer Sidesteps Discipline (Again) And BCS Voters Should Take Note

gfx - honest opinionI don’t dislike Urban Meyer as a person.  I don’t know Urban Meyer.  He may be the best family man in America.  He might be a super-duper fellow when it comes to charity, as well.  In fact, I don’t doubt that he is.  He’s probably a good neighbor, too.

I don’t dislike Urban Meyer because he won at Florida.  I don’t dislike Urban Meyer because he left Florida.  I have no dog in such SEC fights.

What I do dislike about Urban Meyer is his split personality.  On one hand, he speaks of discipline, of recruiting good young men to represent his school, of holding players to high standards in order to grow them as young men.

On the other hand, he’d drive the getaway car for some of his thugs, punks and miscreants if it meant keeping them eligible.

He’s the exact opposite of everything he says he claims he stands for.

SEC fans know what kind of a program Meyer ran at Florida.  It was highly successful for a very brief period — the Tim Tebow period — and then it crashed down upon itself.  Meyer quit, then didn’t quit, then quit again to be with his family, then caught the first plane to Columbus when Ohio State’s last coach brought that program down on his head.  Irony: OSU has hired a guy who lets his kids get away with murder — just kidding, Aaron Hernandez was only questioned in a Gainesville shooting — to replace a guy who lost his job and landed the Ohio State on probation for letting his players do anything they liked.


George Bush's "Fool Me Once" Gaffe


What he said.

Depending on whose count you believe, 30+ Florida players were arrested during Meyer’s six-year arc at Florida.  The New York Times reported that 41 of the 121 players on UF’s 2008 BCS championship squad were arrested at Florida, after leaving Florida, or both.  That’s quite a collection of well-disciplined young men.

There have arrests at Ohio State, too.  Yeah, I know, who didn’t see that one coming?  After all, Hernandez stuck on the Gator squad despite getting into a bar fight at 17 and then being drawn into a shooting investigation.

Chris Rainey was arrested for texting his girlfriend, “It’s Time to Die, Bitch.”  Did Meyer, the father of two girls, dismiss him from the team?  Of course not.  Rainey later went to the NFL where he was cut by the Pittsburgh Steelers after a domestic violence arrest.

Janoris Jenkins was dismissed from Florida’s team when Will Muschamp took over.  A pair of arrests actually had consequences under UF’s current coach.  Jenkins — in a very damning remark — made it clear that such accountability wasn’t part of Meyer’s program (despite all of the coach’s talk).  “No doubt, if Coach Meyer were still coaching, I’d still be playing for the Gators,” Jenkins said.  “Coach Meyer knows what it takes to win.”

Indeed he does.  And he’s displaying that knowledge once again this week.

Meyer has decided not to suspend — surprise, surprise — two starters who were pitched from last weekend’s win over Michigan for fighting.  One of them left the field by throwing double birds at Wolverine fans.  Beats throwing punches, I guess.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2013 Ohio State Buckeyes:


Michigan Ohio State fight results in three ejections


Hope you stuck around until the end of that clip.  Apparently that kind of behavior is what “Law & Order” Meyer views as the proper way to carry one’s self while on scholarship as a representative of THE Ohio State University.  His decision not to dole out suspensions to Marcus Hall and Dontre Wilson couldn’t have anything to do with the Buckeyes playing Michigan State in the Big Ten Championship Game with a BCS title shot on the line could it?

Now, because Meyer did a year at ESPN, many in the media look the other way when it comes to the stone cold, undeniable fact that the wins on his resume are matched only by the number of arrests, ejections, and suspensions that have occurred at his programs.

Interestingly, Meyer has no problem calling out the media.  He went so far as to call college football writer Jeremy Fowler “a bad guy” back in 2010 for daring to publish a Gator player’s quote verbatim.  “You’re a bad guy, man,” Meyer said.  “You’re a bad guy.  If that was my son, we’d be going at it right now.”

What a toughie.

The reality is that most of the bad guys seem to be on Meyer’s teams, not in the press pool.  And the fact that he coddles his players and refuses to do what’s right in terms of discipline doesn’t shine a very positive light on Meyer, either.

Here’s hoping a few BCS voters remember that when deciding who to send to Pasadena for the national title game.  The one-loss teams in the SEC Championship Game haven’t had three players arrested this year… or had two players ejected from a game for fighting… or had one player leave the field shooting obscene gestures at fans.  Or had a coach who refused to discipline his fighters and his bird-thrower because an important game looms large on Saturday.

Auburn’s and Missouri’s coaches also haven’t had 40-some-odd players arrested over their last eight seasons.  Meyer has.  But as Jenkins said, “Coach Meyer knows what it takes to win.”  And that’s why the guys who embarrassed OSU last weekend will be donning the scarlet and gray again on Saturday.




Except he suspended his best player for 3 games to start the season when he didn't need to.  But why would you mention that in your article?  I only read this drivel to see how slanted someone called "Mr. SEC" would be, and you didn't disappoint.  I think it's safe to say I won't miss anything if I avoid your trolling going forward. 


It looks like the guy who posted this said it all Meyer falls in with the last one a cheat


Wow, you start off with a disclaimer about how you don't dislike Urban Meyer, and then you all but kick him in the nutsack.  This article, if I had a printer handy, would make for good butt wipe.   On your next attempt, how about applying a little of that journalism education you're clearly still paying for?  Big Dope!


Discipline is paramount.

For me personally, I needed discipline for diet and training. Always knew what to do but couldn't ACTUALLY DO IT.

I got the PATH TO WILLPOWER book and my discipline built and built and know I can actually achieve things. Results have skyrocketed. It's at;

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You have to admire the consistency of Meyer. Why would any player who is able to help on the field ever worry about his coach actually following through on his tough talk? You also have to admire the consistency of THE OSU. Woody Hayes, Jim Tressel, and Urban Meyer are all revered for their on field success. They are also all poor roll models and builders of character. And followers of the BIG (and others) think they are all so much holier than the SEC.


@the_voice Mr Voice, you obviously no nothing about what you are talking about. Woody Hayes did more for his community and local charities than a dozen modern coaches combined. You make an unsupported statement based on his on field persona. Look into your history before you spout off. Its not as if a player got thrown out of one BIG school for stealing computers, went to a J.C. for a year only to be sold to the highest bidder of another BIG school. Oh wait that was the SEC. Guess they all have demons. Get real and get honest.


@the_voice The OSU, Woody Hayes, Jim Tressel, and Urban Meyer may be poor roll models but they are excellent ROLE models.  They back their kids in the public media.  Kids do make mistakes, and under the OSU coaches, they are disciplined, but privately. Woody used to run the guts out of the kids who screwed up publicly.  It was a teaching moment.  The same kids thanked it for him later.  Tressel gave up his career for his kids.  Urban knows the easy way out would be to throw the players under the bus.  He's taking the heat for them. 

BTW. Mr. Hall publicly apologized for flipping off the fans.  He knew that was wrong the same way he knew it was right to defend one of the smallest players on his team.  Mr. Wilson was surrounded and pushed around by 8-9 Michigan players after the kickoff, then had his helmet ripped off his head when the shoving started.  He owes no apology.  The both were punished with disqualification per the rules.  Both paid for their roles in the fight.  Time to move on.


@GeorgiaDome @the_voice I'm sick and tired of coddling young adults who break the laws or rules at whatever school they attend. The snobbery of fans of some conferences in believing their school or their conference wouldn't put up with such behavior while it is common in other conferences is horse manure. It is endemic throughout big time, big money college athletics. Does that mean no one should ever get a second chance? Of course not. It's the slap on the wrist, the wink and a nod that needs to change. Meyer's behavior is sad in the SEC and BIG. Tressel's (and THE OSU administration's) behavior regarding tattoo gate (essentially no punishment to the five players found breaking the rules) is disgusting. So is half a game for Manziel's behavior. Please just don't act holier than thou about the issue. It is not whether it happens everywhere because it does. The issue is what do the leaders of that school value more, winning by being expedient or building young men by doing the right thing. Too often it is winning by being expedient..


@MikeSmith5 @the_voice Good catch on the usage error. Sad defense of the Tressel and Meyer style of dealing with college athletes. Neither are close to the white knights you portray. At that age "kids" should know right and wrong, as well as what the rules are and the consequences of breaking those rules or behaving badly. Tressel and Meyer have demonstrated over a long period at multiple schools that just about anything goes if the player is valuable to the team. That THE OSU would hire Tressel after his issues at Youngstown State and Meyer after his issues at Florida seems to indicate that winning (which both do well) is much more important than developing responsible citizens out of these budding adults.

I probably was too harsh on Hayes, whose bad moment shouldn't outweigh the rest of his career.


Yep, Woody was an excellent role model when he threw a punch at the Clemson play during that bowl game many years ago.


@GeorgiaDome By the way, we hear too little about schools like Notre Dame, which has played this season without its' starting QB due to his breaking school rules (not NCAA rules or the law). ND's administration is honorable, and that's something other schools should emulate. (Boy, it's hard to give a 'that a boy' to those arrogant irish.)


That was certainly the low point and a regrettable act. But the hundreds of players he coached will tell you he taught them strength and honor. He was a great man, a great coach, but he did make an out of character mistake against Clemson.  Just great, not perfect.


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