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The BCS Title Game: Five Teams, Two Slots, One Test Of Blind Resumes

gfx - by the numbersReaders of MrSEC.com know by now that we’re big fans of the “blind resume” test each spring.  As SEC basketball teams jockey for position on the NCAA Tournament bubble, we lay out our own comparison of those squad by the numbers.  About 90% of the teams who earn at-large bids to the tourney can easily be determined by a simple scan of their numerical accomplishments.  RPI, SOS, wins versus top 50 RPI teams, road and neutral court wins, etc, etc.  Survey the data and you’ll be able to predict the NCAA field just like the Jerry Palms and Joe Lunardis.

In football, for now, it’s still more about the eye test than anything quantifiable.  About the only number that comes into play is the big one in each team’s loss column.  Zero losses against a so-so schedule is still better than one loss against a good schedule.  At least that’s how it’s played out in most BCS seasons.

Hopefully that will change with college football going to a new playoff system in which teams will be selected by a panel of experts, not unlike the NCAA Tournament selection committee.  For kicks, we look below at some of the numbers that might be used by future panels to fill out a four-team playoff field.  Only we’ll use those digits, facts, and figures to try and determine the two best football teams this season.  Obviously, there are still some conference championship games to be played and any four of the top five teams in the current BCS standings could lose on Saturday.  But the numbers below still provide some food for thought.

We’ve taken the top five BCS teams — #1 Florida State, #2 Ohio State, #3 Auburn, #4 Alabama and #5 Missouri — and tallied up eight different statistical categories for each.  We’ve removed the names of the schools just to make things more interesting for you.  If you don’t want to cheat, be sure not to click the “read more” button until you’ve studied the chart in full.

First things first, we’ve used the current BCS standings (1-125) for several of our scheduling factors.  Even for those teams not currently ranked in the USA Today Coaches’ Poll or the Harris Poll, there are still rankings produced by the six computer formulas.

Also, keep in mind that we have not included any of the data from these teams’ dates with FCS foes.  Those games haven’t been counted in any way, shape or form in the table below.

Now, for the data we did include:

 

*  Opponents’ winning percentage

*  Overall margin of victory for the season (with deficits in losses deducted)

*  The average margin of victory per game (with deficits in losses deducted)

*  The number of opponents currently ranked in the top 25 of the BCS standings

*  The number of opponents ranked in the top 25 of the USA Today Coaches’ Poll at the time of the game

*  The number of top 50 foes played (according to the current 1-125 BCS rankings)

*  The number of sub-75 foes played (according to the current 1-125 BCS rankings)

*  The average current BCS ranking of each team’s foes

 

One other note, we do include the conference championship games still on the docket for Florida State, Ohio State, Auburn and Missouri when dealing with their schedule-strength numbers.  Obviously those final figures will be impacted by this weekend’s results.

Now, without further ado, the numbers for the top five teams in the current BCS standings are in the chart below.  The teams are listed in random order just to keep you guessing.  After clicking the “read more” button, you’ll see which team is which, their current BCS rankings and their overall records.  Here goes…

 

  School   Team A     Team B     Team C     Team D     Team E  
  Opp. Winning Percentage   .506   .496   .604   .493   .569
  Total Margin of Victory (Season)   259   238   134   464   188
  Margin of Victory per Game   23.54   23.80   12.18   42.18   17.09
  Current BCS Top 25 Opp.   2   3   5   2   4
  Coaches’ Top 25 Opp. At Time   3   4   6   4   6
  Top 50 BCS Opp. Played   4   6   8   2   6
  Sub-75 BCS Opp. Played   3   4   2   4   1
  Avg. Current BCS Rank of Opp.   59.25   57.00   41.75   62.16   46.66

 

Once you take the names off the teams and you strip them of their current rankings (which have been impacted by their preseason rank), things boil down to a simple choice between two options.  If you’re looking for dominant teams against less imposing foes, Teams D, B and A are for you.  They’ve walloped their foes.  But the collective strength of their opponents is spotty at best.  Two of those teams have played FBS schedules consisting of teams that are below .500 combined.  Team A’s foes were barely over .500.

The other option is to go with teams that have played closer games, but against more challenging competition.  Team C, for example, has won its FBS games by an average of just 12 points per contest, but the average squad on that team’s schedule would be ranked right around #42 in the current BCS standings.  Team C has played eight top 50 BCS foes.  Its FBS opponents have a combined winning percentage of .604.  Team E ranks just behind Team C in terms of the schedule measures.  While Team E has played six top 50 BCS squads, it has only played one FBS opponent ranked 75th or below.  Just one.

Think you’ve figured out who’s who in our chart?  We’ll identify all the teams for you if you just click the pretty red words below…

Team A is #2 Ohio State, 12-0 overall.  The Buckeyes are tied for the fewest number of current top 25 teams on its schedule.  (Those two foes include this weekend’s Big Ten Championship Game opponent, Michigan State.)  Not surprisingly, the Buckeyes rank second in terms of margin of victory.  But while OSU has faced a lot of tomato cans, they have kicked or crushed the majority of them.

Team B is #4 Alabama, 11-1 overall.  The teams on Bama’s schedule have the second worst overall winning percentage.  In fact, the Tide’s overall schedule data is only slightly better than Ohio State’s.  That’s what happens when your league schedule includes the league’s three total-rebuild jobs (Arkansas, Kentucky and Tennessee).

Team C is #3 Auburn, 11-1 overall.  No one at this party has played a tougher schedule than Gus Malzahn’s crew.  Tiger foes have won more than 60% of their games.  Auburn has played more teams currently ranked in the BCS top 25 than Alabama, Missouri, Ohio State and Florida State.  They’ve played more top 50 BCS squads than anyone else on the list, too.  And AU is also tied for the highest number of games against ranked foes (when they played).  Meanwhile, Auburn’s average margin of victory is the lowest of the teams we’ve studied.  That stands to reason, however, considering their opponents’ strength.

Team D is #1 Florida State, 12-0 overall.  FSU’s foes have the lowest combined winning percentage of our five-team pack.  Just two teams currently in the BCS top 25 have appeared on State’s schedule (and that includes Duke, who the Seminoles will face in the ACC Championship Game).  Those top 25 foes — Clemson and Duke — are also the only top 50 BCS teams Florida State will see.  FSU ties Alabama in terms of the number of sub-75 ranked BCS teams on the schedule (with four).  But if kicking sand in a weakling’s face is your thing, the Noles have that act down.  This season they waxed Nevada by 55, Maryland by 63, Wake Forest by 56, Syracuse by 56, and Idaho by 66.  That 42.18 average margin of victory has obviously wowed poll voters as well as the BCS computers.

Team E is #5 Missouri, 11-1 overall.  Across the board, Mizzou scores high marks in the scheduling department.  Including Auburn — who they’re tied with in this category — MU will have played six teams that were ranked at the time of the contest.  They’ve also played just one FBS foe ranked 75th or below in the current BCS standings.  And that 17.09 margin of victory isn’t too shabby, all things considered.

 

So what would we do?  Well, at MrSEC.com we don’t see the point in rewarding teams for playing weak schedules.  Instead, we’d focus in on the two teams that have survived the toughest schedules so far — Auburn and Missouri.  In our view, the SEC Championship Game should once again serve as a de facto national semifinal game.  And we’re not talking about earning the second slot in the BCS Championship Game, either.  Therefore, we believe the winner of Auburn/Missouri should be ranked #1 in the nation going into the BCS title game.  They’ve succeeded while facing stiffer competition.  (Being #1 holds no advantage, of course; we just wanted to make it clear who we believe the two best teams in the country to be.)

If any team is getting hosed in the current BCS rankings it’s Missouri.  Gary Pinkel’s team lacks a signature win like Auburn’s over Alabama, but the Tigers have played a wicked schedule, thumped most of the teams on it, and their only loss was in double-overtime to a top 10 South Carolina squad.  That leaves Missouri ranked fifth?  If the same resume belonged to Michigan, Texas or Southern Cal you can bet those “name” programs wouldn’t be fifth.

Which brings us to the other teams in the running for the BCS Championship Game.  The Auburn/Missouri winner could face either Florida State, Ohio State or Alabama, all traditional powerhouses.  Let’s eliminate Bama right up front.  Sorry, Tide fans, but that .496 winning percentage owned by your FBS foes just isn’t good enough.  With that schedule, it wouldn’t be right to reward a team that’s also not having to play in a conference title game.

That leaves us with Florida State and Ohio State.  Both have played poor schedules (and we don’t care that “they can’t help it that their leagues are down”).  If it’s about merit, then it should really be about merit.  Florida State has provided more eye-popping routs, but beating the stuffing out of Idaho and Wake Forest doesn’t impress us.  Ohio State hasn’t been as dominating as FSU, but the Buckeyes’ schedule is a hair better.  OSU also figures to get a tougher test from #10 Michigan State than Florida State will likely get from #20 Duke.  For those reasons, if Ohio State wins fairly impressively over MSU, the Buckeyes should get the #2 slot in the BCS Championship Game over Florida State.

The Auburn/Missouri winner versus Ohio State (if they look good against Michigan State).  Florida State would slip in if the Buckeyes stumble.

But that’s just our view.  Yours might be different.  And from the looks of the current BCS standings — where teams with weak schedules sit on top — the view will almost certainly be different from ours.

Disappointing.

 


89 comments
scott_mcadams
scott_mcadams

It seems to me it is pretty easy to stack the stats you want to use to prove your point. Teams like Texas A&M, Alabama, LSU, Missouri and the rest pick up 3 to 4 easy wins against cupcake teams at home. It is easy to get bowl eligible like that.

Devise a different system. Give 1 point for a win, +1 for a road victory, +1 more for a win over a BCS conference opponent, -1 if the opponent is in the FBS Division. Rerun the numbers for the SEC, Pac12 and Big 10 and see who stacks up and who doesn't.

the_voice
the_voice

Clearly Northern Illinois should be in the top three. After all, once you've had a loss, you're toast no matter what your schedule looks like. (Pardon me while I remove my tongue from my cheek. It's hard to do when I'm LMAO.)

OBXnoworries
OBXnoworries

Interesting assessment.  I'm a Bama fan and I agree we don't deserve to go because of the loss and the relatively weak schedule.  The FSU and OSU schedules were awful, through no fault of their own.  I don't believe OSU deserves it because they struggled in some games this year against pretty weak foes (UM, Nwestern), and they haven't played a top ten team until they get #10 tomorrow.  The undefeated season has always been overrated IMO.  To me not having a loss compared to one doesn't mean anything if the 1-loss team played a rugged schedule and the undefeated team played a really bad schedule.  A team can't bring its A-game but so many times in a season and that makes the teams with rugged schedules far more vulnerable on those days. I agree with you that the AU-Mizzou winner should be #1 and be in the BCSNCG.   FSU, at #2 would still get to prove their mettle. Considering they will have only played two teams in the top 25 (Clemson, #13; Duke #20) we won't really know how good FSU is until they play in the BCSNCG.  In the end, I think the voters are going to give the second slot to OSU, if they beat MSU, over the SEC winner due to the almighty undefeated record.  At least next year we don't have to argue about who among the top 4 should get to go.  We'll get to argue a lot though, when the committee picks someone not in the consensus top four, but that's another story.

jasonbunger43
jasonbunger43

I'm an SEC guy, but to sit here and say what Missouri and Auburn did was impressive, I'm not entirely sure I agree with that.  Missouri benefited from probably the weakest SEC East schedule in the history of the SEC East (When was the last time UF and UT didn't make a bowl game in the same season?  UGA was playing 3rd stringers in the game against Missouri...and they got A&M while they were falling apart).  I'm not saying going 11-1 in the SEC isn't impressive, but you stick them in the west and they aren't going 11-1.  Getting to dodge Auburn, Alabama and LSU doesn't help your schedule.  Auburn looks a hair better, but let's not act like they dominated Alabama either.  They had no business winning that game, but a win is a win is a win.  Auburn *might* be the 2nd best team in the country, but the blatant hate in this whole post for FSU is amusing.  I don't care if they play cupcakes or good teams, they have steam rolled everyone they have played.  I can't forget what they've done to the likes of Clemson and Miami, essentially collapsing both their respective seasons.  They are the best team in the country.   You want to take a look at everything that has been done, I get that, but what about simplifying it and just saying who the two best teams are?  FSU has taken care of business.  So has OSU.  Missouri and Auburn haven't, although Auburn at least played a much rougher schedule to get to their 11-1, and beat the #1 team in the country.  Missouri has no great wins.  Alabama might still be one of the top 2 teams, but they've played kind of passive all seasons.


I think FSU is #1 and should be in.  The #2 is a tossup between OSU, Auburn and Alabama...

RetepAdam
RetepAdam

"Instead, we’d focus in on the two teams that have survived the toughest schedules so far — Auburn and Missouri."

Except they didn't survive. They each lost a game.

phildawsonradio
phildawsonradio

Here's another blind pick -- WinsAdded -- Each team receives all the wins of the teams they beat --> Top 4  #1) 80  #2) 78  #3)77  #4)76 --- So, taking out venues, conference, rankings etc, just who you beat and how many wins their opponent had. 

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Auburn would be #1. 11 wins, with 69 additional wins based on teams they beat. #2 would be Missouri, 11 wins, with 67 additional. #3 Ohio State, 12 wins, with 65 additional. #4 Florida State, 12 wins, with 64 additional. -- Now based on what teams can max out with from their respective conference championship game, Auburn or Missouri, based on who wins, will have the most total wins, Auburn maxing at 92 (getting a win over Missouri, and adding their 11 wins) Missouri maxes at 90, Ohio State maxes out at 89 (Win plus 11 from MSU) and Florida State maxes at 87. (Win plus 10 from Duke) -- Just some additional perspective on the top teams in College football. Who SHOULD be in the National Title game??


JonathanGormley
JonathanGormley

This article is ridiculous as it leaves out the most important data point over the others: that the SEC lost games and the others didn't. And that you give the SEC teams credit, in the way you present these statistics, for their losses, and that you treat those losses, statistically, the same as the non-SEC teams' wins, is really the most glaring piece of dishonesty in this article. 

JCUStreaks10
JCUStreaks10

The problem with this is summed up in one line from your article: 

"Well, at MrSEC.com we don’t see the point in rewarding teams for playing weak schedules.  Instead, we’d focus in on the two teams that have survived the toughest schedules so far — Auburn and Missouri."

Key word: "SURVIVED" Auburn and Mizzou did NOT survive.  That's the point.  You simply cannot ignore a loss.

jhostetter7
jhostetter7

I think all other conferences should stop playing any sports and everybody should just go watch the SEC play.


benjaminkahler
benjaminkahler

When the BCS formula works in your favor you smile.  When it doesn't you pick a few statistics that plead your case.  Crickets, Mr. SEC.

simodas
simodas

"That 42.18 average margin of victory has obviously wowed poll voters as well as the BCS computers."

Except for the fact that margin of victory is not included in a single BCS computer ranking.

rutherfordvangleason
rutherfordvangleason

Why are we talking about this? I am a Missouri alum and I want you all to keep sleeping on Missouri. 


Shhhhhh.....that's it....sleeeeeeep.

Flip13
Flip13

Guess this team and decide whether they should play for the National Championship Game based on the blind numbers:

Opp Winning %                         59%
Total Margin of Victory              221
Margin per game                   18.41667
Current BCS Top 25  Opp          3
Coaches Top 25 Opp at Time    5
Top 50 BCS Opp Played            9
Sub 75 BCS Opp Played           1
Avg Current BCS Rank of Opp 31.36

GuyStawker
GuyStawker

You seem to have left out most important statistic of all: Number of Times Team Identified as Losers After Completion of Game

the_voice
the_voice

My bad. Now I guess they will be equal to the Auburn - Mizzou winner (both will be 12 - 1). It's all about the record, of course, not the schedule's difficulty.

Flip13
Flip13

I don't disagree with you that a 1 lose season compared to undefeated in a weak schedule is somewhat overrated; however, OSU has won been undefeated for 2 seasons now.  That should not be taken lightly, no matter how weak you think their schedule is.

John at MrSEC
John at MrSEC moderator

@JonathanGormley


Yes, very dishonest to pick 8 SOS categories to see who did what.  Then list who did what.  Then state that I -- my opinion -- would pay attention to strength of schedule.


Why the lies, they're just everywhere!


Thanks for reading the site,

John

jasonbunger43
jasonbunger43

@JonathanGormley I agree with this.  While I don't necessarily think you should just assume an undefeated team is better than a 1 loss team, you can't ignore the fact that 3 teams on this list did lose games. 

John at MrSEC
John at MrSEC moderator

@JCUStreaks10 

They survived to the point that they're still - by all accounts - in the BCS Championship picture.  That's why we looked at the top five teams.  That's why everyone else in America is looking at the top five teams.

Anyone still in the national title hunt at this point has indeed survived.

Thanks for reading the site,

John

John at MrSEC
John at MrSEC moderator

@gregorybright17 

Yep, SEC football is just a big myth.  That's why the NFL drafted twice as many SEC players last year as any other league.  There's no talent advantage, no difference of any kind.  

John

John at MrSEC
John at MrSEC moderator

@jhostetter7 

Question: If I'm simply pro-SEC, why would I eliminate Alabama immediately?  Seems a pro-SEC guy would claim the SEC champ should face Bama.

Along that line, if I'm an SEC homer -- rather than someone who just covers the SEC -- why do I continually rip SEC basketball?  Or am I just an SEC honk for football... and just for one team in this year's title game rather than two?

Or are you just making simplistic statements because your favorite team played a do-nothing schedule?

Thanks for reading the site,

John

John at MrSEC
John at MrSEC moderator

@benjaminkahler 

That's not true and it never has been.  Personally, I didn't feel that LSU deserved to play for the title in 2007.  Also, I've said since the playoff was announced that SEC fans shouldn't be so happy because the BCS system has been kind to the league.

I simply show a blind resume comparison for the purposes of looking at schedule strength.  Then I stated who I would put in the game.

I see no pleading, whining, crying or anything else. 

But, if you feel the need to make up arguments and assign them to me, have at it.  I don't care if you're dreadfully wrong.

Thanks for reading the site,

John

John at MrSEC
John at MrSEC moderator

@simodas 

Good point on the computers.  You are correct.  It's only wowed the voters.

Thanks for reading the site,

John

nb686
nb686

@rutherfordvangleason I hear you.  If I were told to put down money on the game right now, I'd take Mizzou.  They are far more balanced on O than Auburn, and their defense has flat out dominated the only two spread attacks they've seen in SEC play--the last two weeks.  Maybe my view is skewed since I just watched them absolutely own my team two weeks ago....but yeah, I like Missourah

John at MrSEC
John at MrSEC moderator

@Flip13 

On opponents' winning percentage, we include the second game with Stanford as another 10-2 game.  Therefore the winning percentage is actually .627 if my quickie math serves.  The total margin of victory for all 12 games is actually 166, not 221... don't forget to remove the 17 points for two losses.  Current BCS top 25 foes is actually 4 not 3 (again, count Stanford twice).  Top 50 BCS foes would be 10 (with Stanford).  ASU did't play any sub-75 BCS clubs according to the rankings I'm looking at.  And the average rank of their foes -- not counting FCS Sacramento State -- is 33.83.

Personally, I think Arizona State should be ranked higher than 11th.  But they have two losses on the season and they're not in the top five and have zero chance at the BCS title... which is why we didn't include them in a comparison of the five teams that actually are in the running for the BCS title game.

Go Sun Devils!

Thanks for reading the site,

John

John at MrSEC
John at MrSEC moderator

@GuyStawker 

You mean aside from those big, bold numbers beside the school's names, right?  

Did you argue for previous undefeated teams TCU, Boise State and Utah to make the BCS title game.  If so, I salute you.  If not, then you're simply changing your argument based upon the teams involved.

Thanks for reading the site,

John

5LittlePiggies
5LittlePiggies

@GuyStawker  I think the categories up there should not be how many top 25/50 BCS teams PLAYED, but VICTORIES over said teams.  I think losses should be on there also, but what was the ranking of the team who beat them.  Missouri losing to a top-10 South Carolina is not NEAR as bad as Ok. State losing to West Virginia.  

the_voice
the_voice

Somebody just told me the MAC isn't good enough for Northern Illinois to be rated that high. Wow! Isn't that what SEC backers are saying about the ACC (FSU) and  the BIG (THE OSU)? Maybe schedule difficulty does matter after all.

John at MrSEC
John at MrSEC moderator

@Flip13


If you're going by past accomplishments, should Alabama get in the title game because it's won two BCS crowns in a row?  Or do last year's records only count for Ohio State?


John

John at MrSEC
John at MrSEC moderator

@jasonbunger43 @JonathanGormley


No one has left out LOSSES.  They're listed in big, bold letters.  I didn't pick numbers to push the SEC.  (I put Ohio State and Florida State ahead of Alabama, but no one seems to notice that.)  I picked SOS type numbers and had ZERO idea how the findings would look.


I like strength of schedule.  No one else has to.  I say that in the piece. 


Thanks for reading the site,

John

mellemellem
mellemellem

@John at MrSEC @JCUStreaks10 So you use the "flawed" ranking to determine the cut off? If you proclaim to have a good metric, it should work for every team. This one would potentially put an 8-4 team in the title hunt, so it doesn't work.

mellemellem
mellemellem

@John at MrSEC @gregorybright17 Or NFL execs largely buy into that myth the same way everyone else does? Seems possible; they're not infallible after all. I think better criteria would be how well those players do in the NFL. This year we're seeing a surprising number of UDFAs find success in the league, suggesting that people making decisions about drafting aren't perfect.

matt90
matt90

@nb686 @rutherfordvangleason  Mizzou is more "balanced" than Auburn on O, in the sense that they pass more.  But that's because running the ball is more efficient than passing, and nobody has been able to stop Auburn's running game.  If you can run for 300 yards/game, you do it.  You don't pass just to pass.  And Auburn puts up more total yards/game than Mizzou.

Mizzou passes for 70 yds/game more than Auburn, and Auburn runs for 90 yds/game more than Mizzou.  That's not "far more balanced in my book.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/team/_/stat/total

Flip13
Flip13

The comment was referring to the BLIND RESUMES not including Wins/Losses, not your discussion of each team afterward.


See my post above that shows Arizona State's Blind Resume, most if not all categories are just as good or better than the top 5 teams.

John at MrSEC
John at MrSEC moderator

@5LittlePiggies @GuyStawker 

I didn't include the losses because it would not a blind comparison... you'd guess by the record who is who.  The losses were shown just under the table.  

Also, we deducted the points from a loss from each school's total margins... so those did count against team that lost.

Thanks for reading the site,

John

the_voice
the_voice

Upon further review, it's records only for BCS conferences and schedule difficulty for everybody else. So if Cincinnati had gone undefeated this year they would be above all the teams with 1 defeat, but if they do it next year then their schedule won't be good enough. Yeah, that makes no sense to me, either.

WryObserver
WryObserver

@Flip13 It is a great feat, it is just completely irrelevant to this year.

Flip13
Flip13

Ohio State would have been playing in the NCG last year if it weren't for NCAA Sanctions.  I'm just saying it's an impressive feat, 24-0, even if you think it is a weak schedule.

John at MrSEC
John at MrSEC moderator

@mellemellem @John at MrSEC @jasonbunger43 @JonathanGormley


I DID deduct the points from losses.  It's written in bulletpoints explaining what we frickin' did.  But you didn't read it:


*  Overall margin of victory for the season (with deficits in losses deducted)

*  The average margin of victory per game (with deficits in losses deducted)


As for your second point, deduct one win from Auburn and Missouri... and they're still ahead of OSU, FSU and Alabama. 



John

mellemellem
mellemellem

@John at MrSEC @mellemellem @jasonbunger43 @JonathanGormley


Oh boy.


First, what JonathanGormley said. Beyond that, I'm not saying include the record as a relevant stat, I'm saying use stats that INCORPORATE the fact that those teams lost. "Margin of Victory" is great and all but you could easily deduct points from the margin for what they lost by in the team's loss. And instead of counting the ranks of a team's opponents, it should only count the ranks of teams that they have beaten. Who cares if you lost to a good team? You don't get credit for that.


It would be easy to incorporate the fact that some of these teams lost into some fair blind stats, but there is clearly a lack of either interest or ability to do so. And I am no FSU fan and in fact an OSU hater, but I am willing to give credit where credit is due.

John at MrSEC
John at MrSEC moderator

@mellemellem @John at MrSEC @jasonbunger43 @JonathanGormley


Some folks just can't wrap their heads around this -- If I'd listed losses in the blind resume it wouldn't have been a blind resume at all since everyone knows who has losses and who doesn't.


This was a simple exercise to try and differentiate between the five teams still -- by all accounts -- in the running for the BCS title game.  


I then listed the losses and current rankings... they matter, too.  And I then gave my opinion that strength of schedule would carry a lot of weight with me.  That's it.  No one else has to care about SOS.  This wasn't emailed to the Harris Poll voters.  This wasn't a campaign piece.  I've got no dog in the hunt.  I don't care if Kalamazoo Tech play East Oxnard U.  It won't have any impact on my life, health, income or happiness.


So when fans of OSU and FSU act as though I twisted the numbers or hid the facts they're only showing their own biases and their inability to comprehend what is actually written above.


John

mellemellem
mellemellem

@John at MrSEC @jasonbunger43 @JonathanGormley


This is the data you use for the blind ranking: Opp. Winning Percentage, Total Margin of Victory (Season),Margin of Victory per Game, Current BCS Top 25 Opp.,Coaches’ Top 25 Opp. At Time,Top 50 BCS Opp. Played,  Sub-75 BCS Opp. Played, Avg. Current BCS Rank of Opp.


That's why there are claims that losses are "ignored."

WryObserver
WryObserver

@mellemellem @WryObserver @John at MrSEC @gregorybright17 What you say is true in every sport, but it does not negate the fact that the NFL leads the world in their analysis of pre-draft athletes for their league. These are people who make their living being more right than wrong. There are very specific reasons why the SEC has more draft picks, and it has nothing to do with bias or stupidity on the part of GMs and coaches in the NFL, no matter how you would like to spin it.

mellemellem
mellemellem

@WryObserver  @John at MrSEC @gregorybright17 Actually there are plenty of examples of owners/GMs acting irrationally with draft picks, and a rich history of draft busts as well. Al Davis may be gone from this world, but you're being naive if you think there aren't more like him.

WryObserver
WryObserver

@mellemellem @John at MrSEC @gregorybright17 Yes, the NFL is renowned for buying into the "myth" of players. That's why their pre-draft testing and workouts are more in-depth than any other sport. Seriously? Nobody is infallible, but now you're just being silly.

WryObserver
WryObserver

@matt90 @nb686 @rutherfordvangleason  Statistically, Mizzou is better balanced comparing offense and defense, both running offense, running defense, scoring offense and scoring defense are highly ranked, as an example, and better on the defensive side of the ball than Auburn. To me, that makes Mizzou better balanced. But games aren't won on stats. It should be a heck of game, highly entertaining, and hopefully the best team wins. Two exciting teams, and the nation will be watching.

John at MrSEC
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@Flip13 

If the records had been included in the blind resumes, the resumes wouldn't have been blind as you would have immediately said, "Unbeaten = FSU and OSU," and the whole exercise would have been moot.

I don't see why that's so tough to understand.  And if the loss totals are listed in big, bold letters, I don't see why they're  supposedly not in there.

But thanks for reading the site,

John

5LittlePiggies
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@John at MrSEC @5LittlePiggies @GuyStawker I understand why you did that for your column.  I like the blind comparison for that reason.  I wouldn't include # of losses in that chart, either (although I doubt the committee will do the same next year).  However, I still like looking at wins over top teams maybe in place of how many top teams you played.  Strength of schedule is important, and you include that with opponents win percentage, but I would probably list the next categories as WINS over BCS top 25/50, rather than just number of opponents in same category.  I still like the opponents in sub-75 category.  How many cupcakes did you beat?  Like you said, though, this is your view, and mine just differs a little.  As always, thanks for the reply!

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