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Alabama-Tennessee As A Non-Conference Game? Steve Spurrier Has A Schedule Suggestion

gfx - they said itIt’s no secret Alabama coach Nick Saban wants a nine-game SEC schedule.  South Carolina coach Steve Spurrier has an idea on how he can get there – play Tennessee each year as a non-conference game. Here’s what Spurrier told Matt Hayes of The Sporting News.

 

“Nick Saban wants nine games, well he can have nine and be happy. Yep, nine games against conference opponents—but one of them won’t count, that’s all.

“Our commissioner seems to think if Alabama-Tennessee is not a conference game, no one will want to watch it. I told him, you think no one wants to watch South Carolina play Clemson? We’ve got North Carolina in the first game of the season; a border rival, our stadium will be full. You think no one will want to watch that?

“If the commissioner doesn’t think that’s a big game, he should come watch it. So there you go, Nick can have his nine (conference) games. I’m all for it.”

 

Spurrier’s idea could extend beyond Alabama-Tennessee and include other traditional rivalries such as Auburn-Georgia and Ole Miss-Vanderbilt.  He told Hayes he suggested the idea at last month’s meetings in Destin but it gained little traction.

 


9 comments
buddha22
buddha22

Every once in awhile the ol' ball coach spins up a gem...and this is it. If this rivalry just can't be part of a regular rotation but must be played yearly, what a simple solution w/o forcing everyone elses hand...let them decide for themselves what is best for them and what they need. In the rotation when UT/Bama would play, then it counts as a conference game, otherwise it is part of the 4 game non-conference schedule..

It gives Nick his all important 9 game SOS, permits that must see (?) game every year for one and all and the rest of the conference can just play the rotation and see everyone much more frequently OR can find their own must have cross divisional yearly rivalry game. Brilliant, absolutely brilliant. And if someone trots out that canard that "it just doesn't mean as much" then what kind of rivalry is it, really? Sort of eliminates all the emotional BS about "...didn't complain when they were losing to UT...man up (my favorite, btw) or some other high school drivel.

bradleygator
bradleygator

I don't get it.  What's the rationale for not counting the 9th game?  Just play 9 conference games and count them.  If Saban's not worried about the impact of the 9th game on SEC playoff chances, why should anyone else be?  He's the one with the standing invite in the NCAA title game.  

SouthernBoiSB
SouthernBoiSB

How are schedules created?  Does each team give the SEC office what does (not) work for them & they plug those variables into a computer?  Or is it done manually?

Just curious to get the answer because Alabama has been on both sides of the fence of being hurt & heavily favored by the schedule in recent years.  AND because it's always the main villain in people's arguments.

OBXnoworries
OBXnoworries

This is a bad idea.  In addition to what it does to the great rivalries, it ignores the benefits  of a nine game schedule, which are to improve every teams strength of schedule (SOS) and to make sure our teams cycle through all of the league opponents over a reasonable period.  The whole point of elevating SOS is to attack this myth that undefeated teams are inherently better than once defeated teams.  Making SOS king is the only leverage the SEC has to insist that a second SEC team should be in the new playoff.

Frozenreb
Frozenreb like.author.displayName 1 Like

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RussH
RussH

I have wondered what John thinks about this.... What faults he sees with it, as he preaches the rivalries..... looks like you play your top 3 and everyone else every other year....

MoKelly1
MoKelly1

I didn't think Conference records was the issue in going to a 9 game Conference schedule. I tought it all had to do with home games, overall record, rankings and qualification for a bowl. If my reasons are the primar driver away from 9 conference games,then the suggestion tat one of thegames "doesn't count" isn't helpful.

johndoe1234
johndoe1234 like.author.displayName 1 Like

That's....that's actually kind of brilliant?  Each team plays 8 conference games that count, and then the assigned cross-division rivalry games are played each year but don't count towards the conference title game.  Additionally, when that rivalry game would be a conference game, you can swap out that 9th game for something else.  Add on one more required BCS non-con opponent, and you have all the SoS required for the Nat'l playoff.  

Still better off with 8 games and two non-con BCS opponents (as it would reduce guaranteed in conference losses).

SouthernBoiSB
SouthernBoiSB

"johndoe1234 5pts

18 hours ago

That's....that's actually kind of brilliant?  Each team plays 8 conference games that count, and then the assigned cross-division rivalry games are played each year but don't count towards the conference title game.  Additionally, when that rivalry game would be a conference game, you can swap out that 9th game for something else.  Add on one more required BCS non-con opponent, and you have all the SoS required for the Nat'l playoff.  

Still better off with 8 games and two non-con BCS opponents (as it would reduce guaranteed in conference losses)."

Your comment makes no sense.  WHY would you even have a conference game that doesn't count?  I will agree that there needs to be something a little more "clearer" to define who should go to the CG.  Spurrier has a point that your division record should be what determines who goes for your side.  HOWEVER, I can also see the arguments coming if 2 teams are 5-1 in their division, Team A beats Team B head-to-head, but Team A is 0-3 againt the other division while Team B is 3-0 & thereby goes to the CG with a 5-4 conf. record over an 8-1.

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