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If High-5′ing Hill Was Caught Beating A Man On Video He Should Be 86′d By LSU

gfx - honest opinionOn Saturday morning, LSU running back Jeremy Hill was arrested for simple battery after he and another man struck a 20-year-old victim multiple times — knocking the man unconscious — at a bar just off the Baton Rouge campus.

On Monday, Tiger head football coach Les Miles suspended his team’s leading returning rusher indefinitely.

Yesterday, the Baton Rouge Police Department’s report on the arrest went public.  The report states that a cell phone video shows Hill punch the victim from behind.  The video then shows the other assailant knock the victim unconscious with yet another blow from behind.  At that point, Hill and the other man high-fived in celebration of their knockout.

Today, if video truly exists showing Hill beating another man and celebrating, the player should be removed from the LSU football team.  Permanently.

Readers of this site know that we believe in second chances and due process (in a court of law).  When it comes to typical college mistakes — such as alcohol- and marijuana-related incidents — we also feel a coach and a school have every right to weigh their options and offer paths to redemption if they feel they’re warranted.

But violence?

Uh-uh.  Different beast.

Student-athletes might not yet receive $2,000 stipends for their on-field efforts, but they are given free educations.  Check the price tag on college tuition these days and you’ll see that number’s far north of $2,000.  In exchange for thousands of dollars worth of free schooling, all athletes have to do is represent their university in proper fashion on and off the field or court.

Making headlines by beating someone into unconsciousness doesn’t fit that description.  Celebrating after the fact only makes the foul matter worse.

And according to the police report, that’s exactly what Hill did.  As captured on cell phone video by a witness.

Hill’s attorney told The Baton Rouge Advocate via email: “Obviously, Jeremy was there as the video indicates.  However, there is most likely more to the story than what is contained in a 30-second video.”

Probably so.  But unless the victim assaulted Hill and/or the other unidentified assailant — who could face a felony charge for his involvement — there’s little reason, in our view, for Hill to remain on the LSU football team.

Having said that, we suspect he will indeed return to the team at some point.  First, Hill will have his own version of the incident.  Second, he might cooperate with police (though with the second man still unidentified it doesn’t sound as though Hill has been too cooperative to this point).  Finally, there’s the grey area of who threw the most punches and whose blow actually led to the knockout.

Jeremy Hill — who pled guilty to misdemeanor carnal knowledge in 2012 for engaging in a sex act with a 14-year-old girl in 2010 — is a representative of Louisiana State University.  He receives free room and board from the school and his path to the NFL has been paved in purple and gold.  But if it’s found that he helped beat a man into unconsciousness and then celebrated that act in plain view of witnesses and their cell phone cameras, he hasn’t lived up to his end of the bargain.

Tiger fans might want Hill toting the football for their team this fall, but with two arrests and one violent attack already on his resume, do LSU grads really want Hill representing their alma mater any longer?

 


14 comments
DaveinExile
DaveinExile

Hill will get his walking papers - after the rest of the team understands that he gave LSU has no choice and on a day when the press release will earn little notice. That's how it's done these days. He's already going to lose his scholarship. No reason for LSU to grandstand on his mistake.

gumborue
gumborue

Maybe the guy said he was going to his car to get a gun.

Probably not, but that's the only way hill should get off the hook.

ice2cold
ice2cold

Just to get this right, you think its better to drink and drive, smoke weed, etc etc than to fight? Fights happen all the time in elementary, middle, high, and yes college believe it or not. thats athletes and regular students. i mean if i have reason to fight somebody and if by chance i'm lucky enough to knock him out (considering i'm 5'8 140) than hell yea i'm high fiving lo

John at MrSEC
John at MrSEC moderator like.author.displayName 1 Like

@ice2cold 

I have never been knocked unconscious and I have never knocked anyone unconscious.  That's a bit more than fighting if you ask me.

And I guess that does show the difference between me and you.  If I got in a fight and knocked someone unconscious, my thoughts would be:


1.  Is this guy going to get back up?

2.  Am I going to get arrested?

3.  Is this guy going to sue me in civil court?

4.  Will I be paying some medical bills for this guy?


I would not think -- "Woo-hoo, high-five!"

Most adults I know would see things as I do... at least on that (if not on the punishment angle).

Thanks for reading the site,

John

5LittlePiggies
5LittlePiggies like.author.displayName 1 Like

@ice2cold While I agree with you on the other crimes that are not punished enough by coaches, this was not a playground fight.  First of all, Hill is only 20, at a bar, at 2:00 in the morning (strikes 1 and 2).  Then the report said the video showed the man get off the ground, and begin to walk away from Hill and his accomplice.  Hill then punches the guy behind the ear (while he was walking away, strike 3), followed by his accomplice, who finished him off.  Plus, I don't think Hill is 5'8" 140 lbs.  He runs over SEC linemen and linebackers week in/week out.  

SECFootballFan
SECFootballFan

You seem to have a particular desire to pontificate on LSU and its coach Les Miles.  Where was this article when three Alabama players attacked an innocent student, knocking him unconscious, and then stealing from him?

John at MrSEC
John at MrSEC moderator like.author.displayName like.author.displayName 2 Like

@SECFootballFan 

I was trashed and ripped by many an Alabama fan for writing exactly the same thing regarding their players earlier this year.

Aside from the anonymity the internet provides, my greatest aggravation are those people who come here to read a story because they saw it linked to on their school's messageboard, then claim in our comment boxes that we haven't written something about another school.

Search the site, then pop off.

My feelings when it comes to violent athletes -- if there's an admission of guilt or video tape of the crime -- will always be the same regardless of the school involved.  Represent a school?  Then don't beat people up.  Beat people up?  You should be gone.

You may not like my take, but you damn sure can't say I'm wishy-washy about it.

John

I4Bama
I4Bama

@SECFootballFan 

My comment below arose from a discussion over said article.  Article is actually the wrong word.  It evolved into a conversation over the course of several articles.

5LittlePiggies
5LittlePiggies

@SECFootballFan  If your comment was directed to @I4Bama I apologize.  You didn't reply directly to him (or her), so I thought your comment was directed at John.  

I4Bama
I4Bama like.author.displayName 1 Like

@5LittlePiggies @SECFootballFan @I4Bama 

Since I was, if anything, defending Miles, I would assume towards John.  This is why I hate comments in type.  They are terrible at communicating subtlety.  In my second comment, I was establishing the fact that John wrote numerous articles about the Alabama situation.

5LittlePiggies
5LittlePiggies

@SECFootballFan Really?  Didn't take me long to find what John wrote about that situation back in February.  Here are some quotes.  "We’re big believers in second chances around here, but getting a second chance in life has nothing to do with getting a second chance to represent a university as a member of its football team.  If Hayes and Williams admitted to the beatings, they should be dismissed from Alabama’s football team immediately.  Period.  End of story.  (That’s not to say Pettway and Calloway shouldn’t get the heave-ho, too — they should — but violence is a more pressing issue than theft in this writer’s eyes.  And if Hayes and Williams admitted to their roles in those beatings, they should be booted ASAP.)"  Another quote:  "The reality is that those players who confessed to committing violent crimes on the UA campus against two different students should have been removed from Alabama’s football team immediately.  The other two should been suspended pending further investigation."  And another: "The University of Alabama has released a new statement — this one from head coach Nick Saban — that fails to deliver the justice at least two of the four players arrested yesterday deserve. ...  These are serious issues.  This isn’t some underage kid drinking a beer in front of campus police.  This isn’t a player with a blunt in his glove compartment.  This isn’t a freshman driving with a suspended license.  These were violent crimes that left at least one student unconscious.  Nothing more needs to be said.  If Hayes and Williams confessed, they should be gone.  If it’s proven Pettway took part in this, he should be dismissed just as coolly."  

One thing I like about this site is how fair John is to all schools.  Get off yer high horse.  Buh-bye Hill.

I4Bama
I4Bama like.author.displayName 1 Like

I'll say this and only this -

I agree completely with everything you wrote and hope LSU chunks this punk, assuming all allegations are true.

Just to prove my lack of bias, though, Les Miles has much more information and, assuming he is willing to do the right thing as Saban was with the four thugs in Tuscaloosa, he should have the right to make the call when and how that information he holds dictates.

BonzaiB
BonzaiB

@I4Bama Correct-o-mundo. I will add, you have to be one mean spirited, cowardly low life to hit a man who is over 100 pounds lighter than you, when you already have him 2-1. Hill is a POS and if others out there cannot see it, it does not change that fact.

BonzaiB
BonzaiB

@I4Bama Should have read, 100 pounds lighter than you from behind. 

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