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All 4 Alabama Football Players Arrested Earlier This Month Dismissed

mrsec-breaking-newsThe playing careers of four University of Alabama football players arrested and charged with robbery and/or fraudulent use of a credit card earlier this month have ended in Tuscaloosa.  Nick Saban announced today that all four freshmen – Brent Calloway, Tyler Hayes, DJ Pettway, and Eddie Williams — are “no longer associated with the (Alabama) football team.

A statement from the University of Alabama said: “UA’s judicial review has been completed.  The four students involved in the robberies on campus are no longer enrolled in UA.”

Saban said:

 

“Based on all the information we’ve received and gone through and tried to determine the future of the four guys that got in trouble, those guys are no longer associated with the football program.  Their actions do not reflect the spirit and character that we want our organization to reflect.  It’s obviously very disappointing and unacceptable what happened…

I also think that I’ve been really proud of over the last five years that our team has done a very good job and shown personal responsibility and how they represent the university, what they’ve done in the community, in the classroom, off the field.  And they’re going to continue to do as much as we can in personal development, character development in our program with education to try to help guys have a chance to be more successful in life…

Some people learn by words, some people learn by consequences, some people can’t learn.”

 

It was only a matter of time before Saban and/or the University of Alabama dismissed at least the three players directly involved in the robberies.  We felt that Calloway might survive as he had only used a stolen credit card.

In the end, it is a privilege to represent one’s university as an athlete, not a right.  A violent criminal act should end that privilege posthaste.  Especially if one has already admitted to committing said act.

Here’s hoping the young men turn things around and make the most of any second chances that are afforded them in life.  But that second chance should not have come on the same campus where the two students they knocked unconscious continue to matriculate.

On a separate note, Saban also revealed today that receiver Danny Woodson Jr. has been suspended for a violation of team rules.

Update: With the suspension, Woodson, Jr. is not participating in the team’s offseason workout program and he’s not the only one.  Receiver Marvin Shinn has decided not to participate and will likely transfer, according to Nick Saban.  Both players redshirted in 2011 and were reserves in 2012.

 

 

 


17 comments
TBfromWoolly
TBfromWoolly

Like I tried to explain to the lynch mob here after the first article... due process has to run its course.    For all of you convinced that you know how to run a program better than CNS (with all the "they should have done it this way" talk) feel free to slap yourselves back to reality any time now. CNS is the best in the business, and you are all making yourselves look silly by second guessing how he handles his business.   (seriously... the man wins one championship after the other I think he knows better than anyone here how to handle his team)

 

The bottom line is UA conducted a very thorough and responsible investigation, and justice was served.     Looking forward to owning all you haters again this fall as Alabama makes history with their third national title in a row.     

 

Sincerely TBfromWoolly 

I4Bama
I4Bama

So, to Daveinexile's point below, what if the two had been canned immediately?  Would that have sent the message that the crimes of the remaining two were somehow lesser?  Would it have sent the message that, if you do something, you had better not confess to it because you will receive swifter judgment?  If you confess, you are a goner for sure, so stonewall.  If you participate in the crime, be sure you just watch, because then you might have a chance.  The actual perpetrators didn't last a day.  How many cans of worms can you open?

 

As it stands, all four got two weeks and all four are gone.  Message?  Don't be involved in any way.  Confession or not, it will not matter.  Don't do it.  All for one and one for all.  Step in that boat, front or back, and you will sink with everyone else.

DaveinExile
DaveinExile

This would have been so much better if Saban had kicked the first two off immediately and then waited two weeks for the second two. Far less confusing and far fewer questions that way, I am sure. It also would have been a much stronger message to his team, IMO.

I4Bama
I4Bama

So....  Darth Vader actually took the time to get all of the facts straight before he used the force to strangle his latest victims with his thumb and index finger.  Is he still a villain?  I predicted three weeks.  Turns out I was wrong.  It actually took two.  For all those who castigated the Tide for protecting felons, now is your opportunity to apologize.  Not pointing fingers at anyone specific, but if you were a hater on this or other sites, you know who you are...

DaveinExile
DaveinExile

I guess my sarcasm wasn't over the top enough.

 

I was firmly in the camp that predicted all 4 would be dismissed at the same time, narrowing the potential PR issues by a factor of 10. Dismissing them piece-meal, or even 2x2, made no sense for the university at all. The idea that waiting two weeks here somehow communicated permissiveness is, to me, an obviously absurd assertion on its face. But I guess not.

Brad_ATX
Brad_ATX

 @DaveinExile ^ This.  Most everyone on this site called out Bama for not dismissing the confessed parties immediately.  No one, from what I saw, said anything about the others, including myself.  So no I4Bama, I won't be apologizing because I stand by my original statement.  Saban, while eventually doing the right thing, was slow to take definitive action.

John at MrSEC
John at MrSEC moderator

I4Bama...

 

I don't read every comment left on the site, but I don't recall seeing anyone call Nick Saban a villain -- though it's certainly possible someone did.  As for this site and this writer, I say now what I said then: The two players who confessed to police their involvement in the robberies and beatings should have been dismissed immediately.  Just my take.  I think everyone expected them to get the boot eventually (though, as I wrote at the time, Calloway would have had the best chance of surviving since he simply used a stolen card and didn't take part in the robberies).

 

You are correct that you predicted three weeks.  Congrats.  Of course, your first post on the topic was this: "Leave their stuff on the curb and change the locks.  That is, assuming the allegations are found to be true." 

 

Couldn't have agreed more with your sentiment.  And I compliment Saban on dismissing those players who violently attacked their fellow students.  I'd have just done it sooner and sent a stronger message.

 

Thanks as always for reading the site,

John

AllTideUp
AllTideUp

 @Brad_ATX  @DaveinExile 

The players were indefinitely suspended the next day.  That's definitive action.

 

I'm still confused as to how people can't look at this situation and see how taking a small amount of time to get your ducks in a row is the smart thing to do.  Two weeks is nowhere close to an eternity.  The players never sniffed Spring practice.  How is this not a strong message?

 

I'd also like to point out that the 2 players who didn't confess to the police are also gone.  Does that mean Saban was slow to act for 2 of them, but too quick to act for the others?  If confessing the crime to police is the only tidbit in the story that makes the difference then it would seem an injustice has been done for the 2 who didn't confess, right?

I4Bama
I4Bama

 @John at MrSEC

 Wasn't addressing the villain comment to you.  You never actually said that.  Glad they are gone.

John at MrSEC
John at MrSEC moderator

 @DaveinExile  @AllTideUp  @Brad_ATX 

 

In fairness, I wondered what fans would say if/when player returned.  That was either in the third or fourth update of the story or in a comment section.

 

I state clearly from the beginning that Calloway might survive.  If I suggested elsewhere that the other three would stick, then that was a slip on my part.  Because I -- nor anyone else without a grudge to bear -- thought a team could keep three guys who viciously beat and robbed two students.

 

Thanks for reading the site,

John

AllTideUp
AllTideUp

 @John at MrSEC  @Brad_ATX  @DaveinExile 

John, I don't totally agree with your opinion, but I do respect it.  I know you haven't accused Saban of any great malfeasance so I'm not accusing you of that.  My post was more in general to the people who thought Saban was deferring his responsibility.

 

I do agree with what DaveinExile said and that it was better to make one announcement of 4 players being dismissed rather than multiple announcements for the same number of players.

AllTideUp
AllTideUp

 @j_scott_o 

If you want to be technical about the definitions of the words I used then I guess so.  But the point was that indefinite suspension was a form of action.  They didn't let the matter hang in the wind.

DaveinExile
DaveinExile

 @John at MrSEC  @AllTideUp  @Brad_ATX In fairness, you did wonder aloud if some of the players would find their way back to active status. I think some people assumed that constituted a criticism of Saban's values/motives.

j_scott_o
j_scott_o

 @AllTideUp  @Brad_ATX  @DaveinExile

 Did you really just say that Saban took "definitive action" b/c he "indefinitely suspended" the players?  I think that fits the definition of oxymoron.

John at MrSEC
John at MrSEC moderator

 @AllTideUp  @Brad_ATX  @DaveinExile 

 

Just to be cute... it seems UA initially took "indefinite" action if it was an "indefinite" suspension.  Just kidding.

 

My initial point -- and I can only speak for myself -- was that there were no ducks to get in a row with the two players who confessed to their crimes.  If UA wanted to do more research and get to the bottom with the other two, fine.  But in my view, unless the confessions of Hayes and Williams were gathered through torture, there was nothing more to investigate with those two.  And the quicker those two perpetrators of violent acts were dismissed from the program, the stronger and louder the message to other Tide players and to fans/media across the country.

 

That's my opinion.  It does not mean that Saban is the devil or any other such nonsense... though that's been attributed to me repeatedly since I initially stated: "Boot the two who confessed, take your time on the others."

 

Just as you can't see what's right about my view... I can't see what's wrong with it.  But that's often the case with opinions.

 

Thanks for reading the site,

John

John at MrSEC
John at MrSEC moderator

 @I4Bama 

 

Didn't think you were.  But I've been called so many things around here it's hard to keep 'em straight sometimes!

 

Thanks again for reading,John 

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