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Michigan’s Hoke Just Made Texas A&M’s Sumlin Look Bad

Hurricane Isaac provided Kevin Sumlin with an early test of his brand of discipline at Texas A&M.  Compared to the action taken today by Michigan coach Brady Hoke, Sumlin failed that test.

A&M’s new coach had initially suspended starting linebacker Steve Jenkins and backup defensive back Howard Matthews for his squad’s season opener with Louisiana Tech.  But when Isaac hit Louisiana and the Aggies’ Thursday night opener with Louisiana Tech in Shreveport was postponed, Sumlin backpedaled faster than a corner at the NFL combine.  Instead of sitting Jenkins and Matthews for A&M’s opener — which will now come against Florida in College Station — the coach decided to delay their suspensions.  They’ll still miss the LaTech game… on October 13th.

Sumlin has not opened up about what those players did to deserve their suspensions, but if it was bad enough to miss the opening game, why alter that plan just because the opener will now be against a better foe?  Is that really teaching a lesson to those players and to the team as a whole regarding discipline?

Apparently Michigan’s Hoke would think not.  His team will face Alabama tomorrow night in what most are viewing as the game of the week in college football.  The Wolverines will try to beat the defending BCS champs without starting running back Fitzgerald Toussaint and backup defensive end Frank Clark.  Hoke made the call today to suspend his players today.

Toussaint pleaded guilty to drunk driving on Tuesday.  Clark stands accused of stealing a laptop computer from a dorm room.  Maybe those actions are worse than whatever it was Jenkins and Matthews did to land in Sumlin’s semi-doghouse in College Station.  Maybe not.

Either way, Hoke comes out looking tough on crime while Sumlin looks rather weak.

“The decision was not easy, but I feel it is in the best interest of this program and for these kids, and that will always be my priority,” Hoke said in a press release.  “We have choices every day, and you have to be accountable to this program, your teammates, your family and the University of Michigan.”

Hoke also added: “It’s not always just about football, or a football decision.  It’s about teaching life lessons, and if this helps these kids or someone else make a right decision later, then we’ve won.  That is ultimately what we are here for, to help them grow and mature to become better sons, fathers, husbands and members of society… They are good young men who made poor choices, and we will continue to support them as members of our team and family.”

Big advantage: Hoke.

That said, the reality — sadly — is that if Jenkins and A&M beat Florida next week and a Toussaint-less Michigan gets clocked by Alabama tomorrow, Aggie fans will approve of Sumlin’s backtrack and Wolverine fans will question Hoke’s choice.

That’s too bad.  Because in cases like these, if you’re going to have discipline you shouldn’t pick and choose when it will be meted out based upon your upcoming opponent’s skill level.  Sumlin is hardly the first coach to go that route, of course.  But we at MrSEC.com would be a lot more impressed if he’d stuck to his guns in this matter, his first true test as Aggie head coach.

 


19 comments
Chris
Chris

Why do these players deserve to double their suspension because of a hurricane? The game wasn't delayed until two days before the game. That means that these players were missing 10-14 days of meaningful practice, why should they miss 7-10 days more? That doesn't make sense. They preserve their game plan and who was going to play for LA Tech, and these players don't miss practices they don't deserve to miss. 

Herknav
Herknav

//How about we allow these two coaches do there job without monday morning quaterbacking. Both Coach Hoke and Sumlin have the best interest of there young steeds in mind and know it's bigger than the first game of the season. I trust there judgement and candor alittle bit more than second news from J Pennington or tainted comments from MR SEC.//Just my thoughts.//Herknav sends

pbrstreetgang
pbrstreetgang

One of the more inane commentaries on an otherwise well thought out site. The actions of the Michigan players reflect poorly on their school. Their discipline has more to do with that than Brady Hoke's leadership/management of his football team. On the other hand, Sumlin's discipline is strictly a team matter as the playrs actions did not reflect poorly on the University. Only time will tell whether or not he did the right thing. You can say what you want about Mike Sherman, but he apparently recruited a bunch of solid citizens. Unlike the rest of the league, his players have largely kept their noses clean, the obvious exception, being Johnny Manziel's arrest for fighting and carrying a fake ID - something most red-blooded American men would consider normal, not criminal, activity for a 19 year-old.

BonzaiB
BonzaiB

Finally got around to reading this. Just underwhelmed, the headline made it sound like there was something here. When do we just accept that if we do not know what the actual terms fo the suspension were, what the actual infractions were, and the actual response of the players to the suspension, we don't know squat? And this ain't Sumlin's first job as a head coach, is there something in his track record that shows he is inconsistent? Research that for trends. Coaches should be evaluated on their body of work, not on single instances were pundits don't have all the facts.

The Gators had their share of problems, where Urban let things get so out of hand we had arrests every week. Thank  goodness we have a break in that sad chapter. So, if Sumlin's leadership style starts to approach that of Urban at UF, I'll start to pile on. Until then, I'll take articles like this as just so much preaching. (You're entitled to an informed opinion, but this is just a little too much holier than thou for me). UGA probably has the most consistent approach over time in the SEC (not sure about Mizzou), so the headline could have read; UGA embarrasses, or embarasses, or......).

NatanElias
NatanElias

I disagree.   Suspending against a cupcake hurts the team less and hurts the offending player(s) more by denying them the chance to rack up easy stats.

Aggiefaithful
Aggiefaithful

Screw that, this is a huge game for the Aggie Nation, as it is the first official game under the SEC logo.  These kids broke no "legal" rules and did no sort of jail time; they were punished for in house issues that have been resolved; blame  the hurricane  if you are that annoyed with Sumlin's stance.  I like this site, but this is a bit of a stretch.   

 

And lets be honest; this is the SEC, not the big10, and you need your best players to play...man's game

Smoke Ring
Smoke Ring

No way you can credibly compare criminal acts versus internal violations of Sumlin's standards for his program. Yet you irresponsibly tried. Yellow journalist.

Smoke Ring
Smoke Ring

No way you can credibly compare criminal acts versus internal violations of Sumlin's standards for his program. Yet you irresponsibly tried. Yellow journalist.

SEC Ag
SEC Ag

Since this article didn't state any of Sumlin's side of the story:  The suspensions weren't only the for the game, it includes all the practices and game prep leading up to the game.  The players had ALREADY been sitting out that stuff, their punishment was in progress and nearly completed when the game was ppd.  Sumlin felt to make them sit again for the Florida week, and all it's practices and game prep, would be effectively doubling their sentence, and that that wasn't warranted.  They are still sitting out the game they already started sitting out for.  You may disagree, that's fine, but Sumlin's decision is reasonable, defensible, and consistent (this article implies that cynical expediency is the only possible explanation).  A game being ppd at the last minute by a hurricane is a freak situation (if it had been ppd 2 weeks prior instead of 2 days prior maybe you'd have a case).

 

The Michigan situation involves very different factors, offenses, and timelines.  It's unbalanced journalism to provide Hoke's comments but not Sumlin's defense (he fielded questions and talked openly about it the last 2 days with the press).  But then you throw in the sanctimonious commentary and judgements on top of the unbalanced journalism to paint Sumlin as a bad guy, lifting the article up to hatchet job status.

RoadTrip
RoadTrip

I agree with John. Both schools have situations involving violations of team rules. The fact that DUI and theft involve the criminal justice system is not relevant to violations of team rules. The court dates for these young men are just an additional issue each player will have to deal with on a personal basis.

 

The players violated team rules. Hoke took the high road. Sumlin took the low road. Period. It has nothing to do with conference affiliation or else Urban Meyer would not have been allowed to coach in the B10.

safety guy
safety guy

Why should any of us care how the suspensions are carried out. That is between the players and coaches. By the end of the season, there may not be too much difference in rankings or record between Florida or La Tech.  It is not like Sumlin said after the postponement that they would be suspended for the South Carolina State or Sam Houston State games.  He said that they would still be suspended for the La Tech game.  Big deal.

Mike007
Mike007

What's the issue here?  Both coaches made decisions consistent with the class and integrity of their respective conferences...

rockriver
rockriver

MrSec.com :

 

The greatest bastion of yellow journalism in SEC country.

TracyBillingsley
TracyBillingsley

Happens all the time in sports. Players and coaches are always appealing or dropping their appeal based on upcoming schedules.

Gulf Coaster
Gulf Coaster

Sumlin could be 100% right in his decision, but it does look bad since we don't know what happened.

 

For all we know, he could be strict and have an automatic suspension if they're late to practice too many times, but without that knowledge, it looks questionable.

Statesman
Statesman

Can't compare apples & oranges.  Totally disagree with your stance.  What we know as a fact is that the Michigan kids's transgressions broke the law, while Sumlin stated that the A&M kids broke team rules.  I believe that team rules are important, but you can't compare a guy that was facing a felony DUI-(pleaded down), & theft with the vague team rules.  Team rules could be missing a practice, etc.   Until you know what the kids at A&M did you cannot compare the two situations.  Comparing the two is similar to Penn St. folks asking why was their NCAA punishment more harsh than USC-Trogans.  Apples & Oranges

j_scott_o
j_scott_o

RoadTrip,

What a crock of crap!  This is the same logic that went on at PSU.  It goes without saying that breaking the law is a violation of team rules.  But, when a coach says a player violates team rules, they are talking about things like being late to practice, fighting in practice, skipping class, missing curfew, or other similar important rules.  Breaking the law is far beyond these violations of team rules.  To act like they are no different is misguided, dishonest, or flat out ignorance.

MoKelly1
MoKelly1

 @Statesman You may be 100% correct in what happened. But, it does seem strange (at least to me) to punish someone based on the opponent being played. Some offenses merit suspension from a Conference game and some offenses merit suspension from a non-conference game? Or, we think we can win without you this week so sit but we really need you this game so play? Sorry, I have to agree with the author on this one.

Shane_pcs
Shane_pcs

 @MoKelly1  @Statesman The rumor is that Sumlin gave them a list of requirements that had to be completed so that they could return and play the home opener.  The players in question completed those requirements and even went above what they were asked to do.  So to change that deal after they completed the requirements would be unfair to the players.  That being said, I feel it looks bad and he should have held them out.  It's unlikely we win they game either way.

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