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Ex-Gator QB Matthews Blasts Ex-Gator Coach Meyer… Again

It’s never been a secret that former Florida quarterback Shane Matthews and ex-Gator coach Urban Meyer weren’t the best of buds.  Now, having gone on Jacksonville’s WJXL-AM/FM to talk about the current state of the program, Matthews has opened an old wound and made it very clear that he blames Ohio State’s new coach for what ails Matthews’ alma mater:

 

“(Will Muschamp) was dealt a bad deck of cards, I don’t think people realize how bad that situation is and was…

We ain’t put anybody in the league the last couple years so that shows you how we were recruiting…they missed big time…we had a track team… track teams don’t play on Sunday…you can be able to run like a track team, but you better be able to play football.”

 

If Matthews is right — and we think he is — then it further suggests our “Tebow Did It” theory will someday come to be viewed as fact.  Regular readers of this site know that this writer in particular believes the Gators’ 2006-09 run was more the result of landing a game-changing player than it was great coaching.

Meyer’s record with Tebow: 48-7 (27-5 in the SEC).  Meyer’s record without Tebow: 17-8 (9-7 in the SEC).

Of course, that always draws the obligatory, “But Chris Leak was the starting quarterback during the BCS title season of 2006.”  Yes.  He was.  Tebow — a true freshman — was just the guy who came in and converted all of the third- and fourth-down short yardage plays that UF couldn’t convert the year before.  Anyone else remember the “Third-and-Tebow” comments?

Bottom line: No Tebow, no title in 2006.

Meyer recruited a track team, failed to keep up any discipline off the field, and signed two of the greatest quarterbacks in college football history (Cam Newton washed out after a stolen laptop incident and wound up at Auburn, of course).  That’s a pretty good recipe for short-term success and there’s no doubting the fact that most Gator fans are A-OK with how Meyer won his two crystal footballs.

But if I were an Ohio State fan — based on what we’ve all seen play out at Florida — I would be praying that there’s another Tebow or Newton floating around out there and that Meyer can sign him.  And I wouldn’t be counting on a long run of success.

Ask Shane Matthews.

 


10 comments
BAT24
BAT24

Sad that Matthews has to not only blame Meyer for the downfall at Florida but then go on to say without Tebow they wouldnt have won a title in 2008. The fact is Meyer has won everywhere he has gone and it appears to me Shane Matthews just personally doesn't like Urban. Meyer won 2 National Championships at Florida which is 2 more than Shane Matthews won and correct me if Im wrong but 1 more title than Steve Spurrier..  Sour Grapes because of the way Meyer left , but look at Meyers track record no one can dispute that the guy can coach...

 

reedhopps
reedhopps

Good thing Tressel already recruited an elite QB to fit his system.  So I don't think it matters for the next three years what QBs meyer recruits at OSU.  He has a QB with a strong arm and the ability to rip off 80 yd TD runs on designed running plays.  Sounds perferct, now he just needs a track star to hand the ball too and catch screen passes and he's set.

Old sparky P
Old sparky P

Still blaming Meyer? Sad. Grow up - you got plenty from him. To say 2006 wouln't have happened without Tebow is a fallacy invented to fit your plot line that Meyer had nothing to do with the Gators success. Tebow did a lot - no doubt, but you're basically telling me those crystal balls would be there under coach Ron Zook as long as Tebow was there??? I'm claiming BS on that...

Scott
Scott

These people need to grow up, get over their obsession with their former coach, stop blaming him for all their ills, and move on.  Or does that only apply to Tennessee fans?

ice2cold
ice2cold

I would say no percy harvin, not titles!!

Brutus
Brutus

One must simply look towards the true character that Tebow maintains on and off the field to know that under Urban's tutelage he matured not on.y as a football player but as a man. The Osu Bucks need a mentor type figure for this football team that will enable them to not only get over the hump but also to restore the culture of winning that existed just a few years ago. Coach Meyer won... Tebow succeeded... Meyer left the self annoited kings of college football the sec... And now you all feel the need to bash because some washed up qb decides to whine some more. How pathedic.

BonzaiB
BonzaiB

Tebow was the game changer. UF had some very, very good players along side. The O line was great, and there were many others. Problems on the team had to do with more than recruiting, as evidenced by the number of felony arrests, disciplinary problems, etc. It has become pretty clear to a lot of Florida grads that the old saw in football is true, Don't plan statues to living coaches and or players........

John at MrSEC
John at MrSEC moderator

 @Old sparky P 

 

"Blaming Meyer."  For what?  Winning.  No one said he had nothing to do with the Gators' success.  You wrote that.  Not me.  I also didn't say Ron Zook would have won titles with Tebow.  Again, you just write things to create your own argument.

 

But I'll say this again -- take Tim Tebow off the 2006 and 2008 squads and Florida doesn't have either trophy.  Sorry.  My opinion.  If that makes you weepy, tough.

 

As for Meyer, I think he'll have success at Ohio State.  For one, his track team should do well in a slower league.  But unless he finds another Tebow or Newton, I don't think he'll collect two national crowns at OSU, no.  And unless he starts to maintain discipline off the field, I don't expect him to be in Columbus for longer than five or six years.  As was the case at Florida. 

 

Again, my opinion.  My site... my opinion.  That's how it works.

 

John

John at MrSEC
John at MrSEC moderator

 @Brutus 

 

Uh, yes.  You got it.  I'm "bashing" Meyer because he left the "self annointed kings of college football."  (Shows what I know.  I thought those six BCS trophies were handed out by all the FBS-level football schools, not just Mike Slive.)

 

"Pathedic" indeed.

 

John

reedhopps
reedhopps

 @John at MrSEC

 It is impossible to know who would have been the QB if you take Tebow away.  So it is impossible to look back and say if you take Tebow off the team there is no titles.  Maybe he recruits differently in the backfield if he doesn't have a FB for a QB, and he signs a power back who takes care of the short yardage plays.  Plenty of Track stars have been stars in college and failed in the pros (i.e. Teddy Ginn Jr.).  It is much easier to design systems to mask the weaknesses of a player in college, which happens to be something Urban Meyer was rather good at).  For instance the fact that Tebow couldn't/can't throw the ball to save his own life in the NFL didn't prevent him from putting up great numbers at UF.  His weaknesses were clevelry masked at the college level by his coach and his system (Urban meyer).



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