Thanks a lot, John, for forcing me to agree wholeheartedly with a gator. Gatorwhisperer hit the nail on the head. The institution is who is being punished, and as long as they choose to be so, the kids are part of the institution. If "unfairly punishing innocent kids" were the standard for who could and could not be punished for their actions, then we couldn't incarcerate Sandusky because, you know, he's got kids who had nothing to do with this.
Did this report say not to punish those kids? I don't see that anywhere.
Nope. It says please stop saying they aren't being punished. Had nothing to do with whether they should or shouldn't be punished. I just got tired of listening to people state the players "can go wherever they like" as though they weren't victims of this as well (though to a much lesser extent, obviously).
You saw what you wanted to see and commented on that... NOT on what I wrote.
Comment on what you wrote? I can do that. You wrote, "What more punishment is needed? Joe Paterno is dead. Sandusky will die in prison. Others in PSU’s administration have lost their jobs, been vilified in the press, and may find themselves subject to legal prosecution. Hell, all that’s left is to burn the campus down because bad things happened there at one time."
You obviously feel that as far as the NCAA is concerned, they should have done nothing. Having read that, I saw this particular article as nothing more than furthering that stance, with a slightly different slant. So yes, you are right, the players are being punished, as part of the institution. And yes, it does suck for them. And yes, they will bear the most visible brunt of the punishment. But no, they were not the group that the NCAA was after.
Something else you wrote, " it would seem that they wanted to go to Penn State". Well, they probably also wanted PSU to not lose scholarships and bowl trips, or be the location of a horrible coverup. We don't always get what we want. Given the circumstances, I say the NCAA was a fair as they possible could be to the players.
I don't see the first quotes in the story above. Maybe you should have left comments about those views under that other story. It's a separate topic.
As for the second quote, yes, that is above. But I also didn't say in the post above that the NCAA shouldn't have punished Penn State. In fact, I stated clearly, whether you like the punishments -- most do -- or not, it's time for people to stop trying to make themselves feel better by saying the players weren't punished. Which is what I heard all day Monday on national talk radio and that's why I posted the above nugget.
You say, "But no, they were not the group that the NCAA was after." I don't recall saying they were. I only suggested that they were, in fact, collateral damage in spite of the opinions my Sirius/XM player kept delivering to me Monday.