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Allergy Medicine And Cigars Are Tougher To Get Than An Arsenal Of Weapons

This site isn’t a political site.  But it is my site in the sense that I write more than the other guys who work on this site.  With that sense of ownership, I want to take just a short minute to discuss the nightmare that played out last Friday morning in Colorado.

After SEC Media Days, I stepped away for a brief vacation.  I still plan to take a couple more days off, but the other guys here will keep you abreast of headlines, breaking news and recruiting stories from around the SEC in my absence.

But being off Friday, I was unable to post anything about the tragedy in Aurora.  Now I can.  And I will.

Let me start by stating that I’m not an anti-gun guy.  I got my first gun when I moved into a place of my own a couple of decades ago.  I understand the need for home protection.  And while I wouldn’t kill an animal if you paid me, too, I also have a number of friends who enjoy hunting.  So I’m not campaigning to round up anyone’s guns.

That said, I do find it ironic that if I want to buy allergy medication, there’s a limit on the amount I can buy.  Fear of me running a meth lab, ya know.  I have to sign papers even if I buy a little bit.

And if I want to smoke a cigar once every couple of months, it’s hard to find a place other than my own back porch where I can legally do so.  Smoking bans are inside, outside and everywhere it seems.

But an evil kook like James Holmes can get his hands on a semi-automatic rifle, a shotgun, two handguns, 6,000 rounds of ammunition, and head-to-toe body armor that would have prevented police from putting a bullet in him… all without raising a red flag.  How’s that work?  (All that body armor also nixes the whole, “If everybody in the theater had been armed” argument put forth by several gun lobbyists since the massacre.)

Sorry, but our priorities as a nation are pretty screwed up, in my view.  Take away guns or ban them?  Nope.  That’s not my thing.  But as someone who’s owned a gun, I would have absolutely no problem with states or the federal government making it much, much tougher to purchase them.  Honest owners and honest dealers shouldn’t have a problem with that.  We could still buy them, but maybe one or two James Holmes would be weeded out with a stricter process.

Now, what does “stricter” mean?  Good question.  Which suggests it’s time for folks to at least take up this debate, rather than simply saying, “Oh, well, crazy stuff happens.”

If my intake of Claritin-D is recorded and monitored and limited, then someone’s decision to buy 6,000 rounds of ammo or a bullet-proof groin or throat protector — things so many of us need for regular, daily activities — should put that person on a Homeland Security watch list, for example.

Those are my feelings.  If you read them and disagree with them, that’s A-OK.  There are no simple solutions to this problem.  Hopefully you can agree or disagree with me in a calm, cool, rational way without name-calling or putting words into my mouth.  Just please don’t give me the “guns don’t kill people” talk.  I can’t remember the last time someone walked into a theater and stabbed, clubbed or garotted 70 people.  If guns don’t kill people, they sure as hell make it a lot easier for people to kill other people.

This nation has an issue on its hands that’s not going away.  It’s time for folks to at least discuss various means of limiting that problem.  Especially since guns seem to be a much deadlier problem than allergy meds and Cohibas.

 


11 comments
RoadTrip
RoadTrip

I want to add that 71 people got shot in random fashion. Why would anyonegetting shot at in a theater be concerned with a law abiding citizen trying to stop the threat with their own handgun? Dumb statement. You are trained in gun safetyclasses that you are not a police officer. You are to be a good witness and use the piece only when the threat is immediate, intentional and life threatening. Everybody should take the class whether they choose to own or carry a gun or not. If they did many dumb assumptions and statements that stir up emotions would never be made. Truth always works better than perception. Mulaw is absolutely correct - the courts and constitution have long settled the right to own guns. So lets work on the misconceptions and the abusers. John's point in the story is that it is too easy to amass an arsenal when you have no personal liberty to simply buy a decongestant or cigar without a hassle. We have wacky, lobbyist, self interest system of government that is totally run bythe desire for power and greed. They do not have our best interests at heart. So if you have a brain, take a stand and defend yourself and your loved ones in every legal way you can.

RoadTrip
RoadTrip

The people in the front rows were passed over by the idiot and being 20 yardsaway as one poster claims is an untrue assumption for a shot on the guy. Many of the people were within 3 - 20 feet. I just got through nailing the head of a target with 5 shots  from 20 feet with an LCP and I have been to the range 3 times in my life. Considering the fear factor and realizing at this point you have to assume you are going to get shot anyway - if you have two people with handguns start shooting at him this cat is running away as fast as he can go even if they miss him. He is a coward. That's why he went outside and laid down afterwards. He had no desire for a shoot out with someone that would shoot back. I agree with statements on ammunition control. That could work. 

bigorngebri
bigorngebri

Ammunition control and regulating multi round clips are the key to this issue

MJWilliamson
MJWilliamson

John,

 

I can buy cigars over the internet and have it delivered to my house. I cannot buy an weapon over the internet and have it delivered to my house.

John at MrSEC
John at MrSEC moderator like.author.displayName 1 Like

 @MJWilliamson 

 

The headline couldn't fully explain the point of the story unless it said: "Getting Allergy Medicine And/Or Finding A Place To Smoke A Cigar Are Tougher Than Getting An Arsenal."  So I shortened, assuming most intelligent readers would read the story and see quite clearly that I was referring to the recent jump in smoking bans.

 

Obviously, not my assumption was incorrect.

 

John

Vander
Vander

Psychos are psycho and they are going to do what they can to cause harm.  There are really only a few possibilities in this situation

 

1. Ban guns all together (worst idea ever)

2. Accept that we can only do so much to stop people from acting a way we do not like and pray nothing like this happens again.

3. Have flags that warn the proper authorities when someone purchases a set number of guns or ammo in a set time frame.

 

A big issue with #3 is there will be a lot of people to go through on that list and it will take a lot of time and money to investigate all of them.  Plus we would lose some more of our freedoms.

MoKelly1
MoKelly1

This is not a gun issue. This is an issue with the garbage movies and video games that are allowed to be produced and shown. The Batman movie itself is nothing but violence and garbage made to look real. Same with video games. Get rid of this junk and we as a society will do much better than banning guns or creating government data bases to tract citizens.

BrandonALawson
BrandonALawson

In a dark, tear gas filled theater , with terrified people running around doing everything they can to find a safe place, do we really want armed citizens firing weapons at what they think is the shooter?

StackMonkey
StackMonkey

I agreed with everything in this post except the last statement. "Especially since guns seem to be a much deadlier problem than allergy meds and Cohibas." I guess SEEM would be appropriate given the something as tragic as the Batman movie massacre just happened. However, the Meth problem is a pandemic issue for the United States. Just ask any Government agency. Even the EPA has become involved in this issue. 

Bocktean
Bocktean

Hitting a moving target about the size of a soccer ball (face) in a dark theater about 20 yards away while its shooting an automatic weapon: damn near impossible. Heck, remove the shooting back part. If AE's: Top Shot" competitors routinely miss that sort of shot, I'm going to guess Average Joe could never hit it.

 

Would Israel be safer if it were easier to get a Glock? Depends on what you mean by safer. But the comparison conveniently ignores the political hatred fueling those fires. Are you suggesting that Israel allow the Palestinians to arm themselves so they can shoot Israeli citizens instead of bomb them? Or for average Israeli citizens to arm themselves so they can shoot suspected bombers? Did OK's conceal-carry laws deter McVeigh? Or change his choice of terrorist act?

 

I took my son to a gun safety class, even though we don't own one - because all of his friends' homes have guns. This nation is crawling in guns, and it doesn't seem to be having any of the effects people claim. it doesn't deter crime. It doesn't prevent murders. I don't see how more of them would change anything. I could see how less might. But this is fundamentally a political question and an untouchable one for the most part at that. Kudos to Mr. P for sounding his opinion. That's in the Constitution, too.

 

 

 

RoadTrip
RoadTrip

Just took a required gun safety class with my adult daughter for the carry permits.It was excellent. I would have tested the theory that his body armor would have kept him safe.Somebody shooting back at him would have changed his thinking. A .380 LCP with a reasonable aim would have put a large hole in the coward's face, which only had a gas mask on it. Should assault rifle and body armor purchases be registered with the state - IMO they should. But there are millions of handguns, rifles and shotguns out there that were never registered. The practical aspect outweighs the ability to regulate it. The primary ways to handle this is education of the masses and much more severe penalties for criminals using and selling guns. The crime rate for assault type offenses have been going down for years in states that support concealed weapon carry. That is why law enforcement agencies generally support and most of the classes are taught by active law enforcement trainers. Not just in these CO situation, but it would alarm most citizens to know that there are numerous foreign national gang members growing pot and making meth throughout our mountains with IED's that will trigger if you hit a trip wire or catch on your clothing. The Home Depot's/Lowe's know who they are for what they purchase every day in their stores. Think about that on your next hike off the beaten path or hunting expedition. Education of the masses, stronger laws, more highly trained law enforcement officers. All law abiding citizens need to band together an be one big giant neighborhood watch organization.



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