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Hogs, Aggies To Meet Home And Home Before Going Back To JerryWorld

The Southwest Classic between old SWC rivals and new SEC rivals Arkansas and Texas A&M will be moving back to Jerry Jones’ Cowboys Stadium in Arlington, Texas in the future.  Supposedly.  But for the next two seasons, the Hogs and Aggies will do battle  on their own campuses.

This fall, Arkansas will visit Kyle Field in College Station.  In 2013, A&M will return the favor with a trip to Fayetteville.  By 2014, the plan is for the game to go back to the Dallas area, where it’s been played since 2009.  At least that’s the plan according to Arkansas spokesperson Kevin Trainor:

 

“After Texas A&M officially joined the Southeastern Conference, the Dallas Cowboys worked with both institutions to help address scheduling difficulties created for the Aggies with their entry into the SEC.  Discussions between both institutions and the Dallas Cowboys are ongoing and are focused on returning the series to Cowboys Stadium for the 2014 season and beyond.”

 

Jones is an Arkansas alum who knows full well that his school benefits from playing inside the Lone Star State in front of a bevy of Texas high school prospects.  The Razorbacks want to get the game back into the Dallas Metroplex.  In fact, they never wanted it to leave JerryWorld.

As for Texas A&M, well, that’s another story.  Now in the Southeastern Conference themselves, the Aggies would just as soon not give a rival like Arkansas a yearly passage into their recruiting turf.  Better to have the Hogs visit every other year and better to have those visits come to College Station, not to Cowboys Stadium.

We’ll have to wait and see how money and politics impact the final landing spot for what’s to become an annual SEC showdown. At the moment, it looks like two years on campus before a return to neutral ground.

 


12 comments
Fayettechill14
Fayettechill14

Since A&M is 0-3 against Arkansas in JerryWorld, including being outscored 96-50 after the first quarter, I'm not really surprised they want out. The game has been financially beneficial for both sides (albeit not as beneficial as initially thought) but getting spanked inside the glorious state of Texas doesn't do much for the Aggie image.

 

Old Army is correct, there are 7 games left, the last five of which are to be played in JerryWorld.

OldArmy
OldArmy

I believe there are 7 games left on the original contract. Hopefully A&M will not renew this, as the venue has not been as profitable as projected, and with the proposed Kyle Field expansion/upgrade likely, no real reason to do so. The Hogs like it, but there is no real downside for Arkansas. JerryWorld IMHO is a sterile, expensive venue, the speaker /  sound system is really annoying, and the best view of the game is that massive TV hanging from the dome. Why shell out $125 for a ticket, $30 for parking, $6 for a bottle of water to sit 300 - 600 feet from one of the worlds' largest TV screens, with a sound system that is controlled by someone else to see a game? (You can't even hear the bands without the sound system on, and that is telling you something when A&M brings a 360 member band). Nah, its college ball, play it where the crowd gets into the game (and has an effect on it), where you get to have the experience of being on yours, and then the other guys, home turf. 

John at MrSEC
John at MrSEC moderator

Fayettechill14...

 

Here's what I don't get.  A poster makes a comment about the game.  He does nothing to insult Arkansas in any way.

 

But you decide to take shots at his team.

 

I understand comment boxes have become the new anonymous, social sandboxes for our nation's kiddies, but why be ugly?  Did that make you feel better somehow?  What's the motivation?

 

I've never understood trash-talking fans.  Just makes me want to see those fans' favorite teams get their rumps handed to them.  And with all the Arkansas program has been through in the past month, I think I'd keep my mouth shut for a while if I were a Hog fan.  

 

For the record, I don't recall seeing "OldArmy" come here to mock and/or celebrate Bobby Petrino's downfall.

 

Just my take,

John

Fayettechill14
Fayettechill14

Correction, I believe it's 89-43 after the first quarter. Doing that in my head without looking up the boxscores was a bad idea.

OldArmy
OldArmy

 @John at MrSEC For the record, (1) thanks for taking the time for a lesson in civility and (2) the series is tied (or pretty close to it), although the Hogs have done much better than A&M in the last two decades, and not an Aggie out there happy about under achieving during the Sherman era.

 

For Fayettechill14, I prefer to actually visit the campi of the teams we play. In the real world (not living thru the garbage  of this medium), great adversaries make the best friends.

 

Heres an example:  In 1976, the Aggie band decided not to travel to the game in Fayetteville, as we decided to travel instead to our last scheduled game against LSU for the forseeable future. Arkansas fans raised a fit, their complaints got all the way to your state legislature, and our band office was deluged with calls asking us to reconsider. The upshot was, to get us there, YOUR band offered to give up their time on the field at half time for us to show up. We came, and Arkansas tore us up on the field (final score was 31-0 I believe), but the Hogs in the stands gave our band the longest standing ovation I think we ever got.

 

Still rank that as one of the best road trips we ever took. The fans at UA were terrific, the state police escorted us from the Arkansas border all the way to the stadium, we were thanked for coming just about every where we went (it was a pretty funny storyline in both Texas and Arkansas papers), etc. I still have a soft spot in my lil' ol Aggie heart for you Razorbacks because of that trip, three decades later. 

 

I'm going to the A&M / Alabama game. Expect to get pounded on the field (I'll be praying, but.....), but I expect to leave that stadium with great memories of the fine folks who root for the Tide. You might try appreciating the folks from universities your team plays, and you don't get that IMHO from neutral sites.

 

And Good Luck to Coach Smith. He's got a huge, and important job. Arkansas is a great institution and its in the SEC. Two reasons for every Aggie out there to wish you God Speed. If you go to this years' game at Kyle Field, wear your  colors go to Midnight Yell and go to the Chicken and have a beer. Odds are an Ag will buy the first round. That's what college ball is all about. End of Sermon.

OldArmy
OldArmy

 @John at MrSEC Well, have you beat.... 56, ugh...... I can remember watching Bear Bryant coach his first came in a domed stadium..... sans hat.

 

And I hope Fayettechill14 is not going anywhere. My skin is not so thin I can't accept a little humble pie... but I like it ala mode with whipped cream, if you please.

John at MrSEC
John at MrSEC moderator

OldArmy...

 

Clearly the answer is dinosaur.  And at 41.  Dang.

 

Thanks for reading.  I appreciate Fayettechill14's loyal readership, too... I'm just not big on this becoming yet another internet shooting gallery.

 

John

OldArmy
OldArmy

 @John at MrSEC John, you are either a dinosaur or a pioneer...... not sure which, but I like your style. 

John at MrSEC
John at MrSEC moderator

Fayettechill14...

 

No, no.  You misunderstood.  I think "trash talk" is silly and juvenile in real life, much less on the internet.  I simply wondered what thrill someone gets from firing insults from behind an anonymous user name.

 

Now, if folks are going to trash talk on their home team's messageboard or even face-to-face, that impacts me not.  But when people decide to come here and trash talk, well, it's a bit like doing it in my living room.  

 

I want intelligent people coming here.  I'm not a guy who trolls for the lowest common denominator by writing things I don't mean or by trying to intentionally tick people off.  If I were, we'd get a helluva lot more pageviews.  Those guys make big bucks because idiots react to every barb they toss and then they react to one another.  If I were a sharper businessman, I'd follow their lead.

 

Alas, I wouldn't be able to sleep at night writing that crap knowing that I was feeding into the overall negativity that's so pervasive on the internet to begin with.

 

The bottom line is this... if someone comes to my site and makes a comment that's in no way offensive to any other party... then I'd prefer that person not have to put up with the kind of jibber-jabber found on newspaper sites and "GottaLoveMyTeam.com" sites across the internet.

 

Just my take,

John

OldArmy
OldArmy

 @Fayettechill14  @John at MrSEC  Well then, maybe my point was lost in all this.

 

(1)  I did not say the game, before A&M entered the SEC, was not beneficial, I said it was not as good as home and home (and it was implied - when both teams are competing in the same division in the same conference). In 2010, the attendance at the game was 71,000. Big whoop. Not even close to capacity (and way below the lofty top end projections that the game would eventually bring in 100,000 a game), and far less than A&M averages for a home conference game.

 

(2) Now that we play in the same revenue sharing conference, TV revenues are going to be the same no matter where you play as an SEC team. Unless Jerry has a separate TV deal that he negotiated that bypasses the revenue sharing. Possible, but I have not heard a thing about that. Regardless,the game is no longer a non conference novelty. It is now part of a much larger financial umbrella that negates many of the advantages it had. Hard to argue that. And no doubt Arkansas has had a better return on the game. And you deserved to. You fielded better teams for three years running. It was a deal that turned out very well for your sports program. But times have changed and the financials have changed. Not surprisingly, A&M will make out much better with a conference game to be home and home. And if the revenue stream was neutral (and it is not projected to be), there is the recruiting issue. And if the shoe was on the other foot, Arkansas would be working on figuring out how to not exercise too many of the 5 year contract options.

 

And talk about trash talk aside, good to be in the same conference with you guys. Will make the game a lot more interesting.

Fayettechill14
Fayettechill14

 @OldArmy  @John at MrSEC Regardless of Internet, trash talk is still trash talk. Just because it's on the Internet doesn't mean it's suddenly bad.

 

I like Texas A&M as a university. One of my best buddies is in the Corps down there, and I am EXCITED about going to College Station next fall. However, I highly doubt Texas A&M had me and my buddy in mind when they began their push to move the game to campus locations. I think going 0-3 on national television in a named rivalry game was the number one reason.

 

If A&M was 3-0 at this point they would not be complaining; and honestly, Arkansas probably would be. But the "it wasn't generating enough money" argument is BS. Games like the Southwest Classic are mutually beneficial to both schools, unless you lose.

 

And best of luck to A&M under Sumlin, as well. I've pulled for A&M during the past couple of seasons in the Big XII.

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