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Alabama Shows Flaw In College Football Recruiting

Just wanted everyone to see Josh Ward’s top story from the Recruiting Page today. Let it serve as a reminder — especially with signing day approaching — that MrSEC.com covers all of the big recruiting stories in the league from each and every school all year long. In this case, Josh tackles a headline-maker involving Alabama and ties it back to LSU and Tennessee to show that in his opinion the SEC’s 25-man signing cap isn’t living up to the intentions of the league’s commissioner. Do yourself a favor… be sure to follow our recruiting page on a regular basis. — JP

Justin Taylor is the latest victim of a system that doesn’t do enough to protect student-athletes.

Taylor is a running back from North Atlanta High School who has been committed to Alabama since February. Unfortunately, Alabama coach Nick Saban is no longer willing to honor the scholarship he promised to give Taylor for the upcoming fall, according to Taylor.

Alabama has cited a knee injury Taylor suffered in August as a reason he should wait until 2013 to sign with the Crimson Tide. But Alabama already has 27 commitments for the class of 2012 and appears to be trimming the list to make sure it fits under the SEC’s 25-player signing limit.

“(Saban) said the only reason he can’t sign me is because he can’t sign 26 people,” Taylor told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. “They can only sign 25 people. He said he was going to sign me with the next class.”

Of course, there’s no guarantee that would happen.

Taylor’s initial response was to accept Alabama’s offer to sit out the fall and enroll at Alabama next January. But Taylor seems to have decided that’s not in his best interest.

“At first I was cool with it but the more I thought about it, the less I liked it,” Taylor told al.com. “I have already missed an entire season of football because of my injury. I decided I just can’t miss another season. It’s no hard feelings against Alabama but I just decided it’s best for me if I go somewhere that I can be at least practicing with the team this year, even if I have to redshirt.”

Credit Taylor for handling the situation in a mature manner. He has a right to be upset but hasn’t expressed it publicly. The same can’t be said for his coach and legal guardian, Stanley Pritchett, who played fullback in the NFL for nine years.

I’m disappointed,” Pritchett told the AJC. “I’m disappointed with the whole process. If a kid commits and the college accepts it, then the college should honor it.”

The problem is the college isn’t required to honor any commitment it makes to a prospect, even after a student-athlete signs with a school.

Offensive lineman Elliott Porter signed a National Letter of Intent with LSU in 2010 and arrived in Baton Rouge to begin classes that summer. But too many players qualified academically and by August, Porter’s scholarship was gone.

Porter had two options: 1. Grayshirt, which meant he could be a student only on a part-time basis and enroll the following fall or 2. He could go somewhere else.

Porter elected to attend Kentucky but decided not to stay. He ended up transferring back to LSU last spring where he joined the Tigers as a walk-on.

Porter’s case shows a glaring flaw with the National Letter of Intent. Student-athletes are bound to the document they sign unless the school releases them. But the school receives no penalty if it doesn’t honor its commitment with the NLI.

Saban and Miles aren’t the only coaches who take part in such questionable practices. Tennessee coach Derek Dooley was recently unable to promise he would honor the scholarship he offered a prospect for the 2012 class.

The prospect, linebacker Khalid Henderson from Austell, Ga., didn’t appreciate the lack of loyalty from Dooley.

I thought it was a bunch of crap,” Henderson said.

Other coaches will likely make similar decisions because of the SEC’s rule that caps the number of signees each year to 25. When schools get close to the number, some coaches will have to decide whether to cut loose players to make room for more highly-touted prospects.

Surely this wasn’t what SEC commissioner Mike Slive intended when the 25-player limit was put in place by the league in June.

“We set out to be fair to the student-athlete and the institution,” Slive said at the time. “The goal is to make sure we can balance equity between the student-athletes, prospective student-athletes and the institution.”

It appears that goal hasn’t been met.

 


30 comments
BP
BP

If the SEC fathers wanted to stop oversigning by imposing a hard 25 limit, they are going to have to live with coaches being very harsh at times with their early commits.

JBJ
JBJ

I think it should have been noted that Bama continued to honor it's offer to the player after his injury when others who had been recruiting him dropped their offers. That would tell the complete story. Also, Coach Saban did not pull the offer from Taylor. He still has a scholarship offer from Bama, just a little later. It will give his knee time to heal properly and he will be ready to go when the time comes. And why the lead reference to Alabama when much of the article centers on a kid who LSU cut loose after he was already on campus. Isn't that the way the Miller kid wound up at Auburn. I enjoy the work Mr. SEC.com does, but this one I think was designed to make Bama look bad when in reality the coaches were trying to do the right thing and be honest with Taylor.

mb6783
mb6783

You Bama fans are a joke. If this said Auburn you would be jumping all over them. Next your going to start saying The Bear didn't cheat. HAHA

RandomFan
RandomFan

The key question here is who is at fault? Is it Nick Saban, Derek Dooley and Les Miles? Or is it a rule conceived under the auspices of helping young men, but has been very poorly executed? Is it both? I personally believe the rule should have been backed off until the next (2013) recruiting cycle so that it wouldn't negatively effect the current (2012) cycle, but c'est la vie.

Realize that Taylor committed to Alabama in February 2011 and the new rule was voted in by SEC presidents as of June 3, 2011 as per NBCSports.com. Under the old 28 limit, programs could take a risk on a prospect. If you believe in recruiting/scouting services, you have to say that Justin Taylor was on the lower fringe of what Alabama generally targets for recruiting, particularly for running backs. Simply put, Taylor = Higher risk prospect for Alabama. With the current limit, the ability to take a risk is great impeded. The risk was only magnified by Taylor's unfortunate ACL tear.

Look at USC. It will be nothing short of a minor miracle if that team stays competitive, and by competitive I mean Rose Bowls/BCSCG appearances consistently, with the loss of 30 scholarships because they have to hit on Every. Single. Prospect. they sign.

The fact is that recruiting has turned into a monstrous, vicious business. It is damned unfortunate what happened in this case, but to say this situation rests entirely at coach's feet is flawed reasoning. The way the article is written leads me to conclude that Mr. Ward believes that it is primarily coaches responsibility versus administration higher up. My proof? Mr. Ward spends roughly 600 words expounding on the "coaching" side of recruiting, versus roughly 60 on the "SEC executive" side of recruiting. Neither side of this situation is blameless.

Yonu
Yonu

Ohio University athletes are like family here not numbers. Kids get to caught up in the hype and discarded like they are Professionals.

gtimesbholloway
gtimesbholloway

Gotta say, I don't see the reason for outrage on this one. True oversigning is deplorable, but until pen meets paper, schools can walk away from players AND players can walk away from schools (just ask Mr. Kiel). I understand taking the side of the kid, as they have little power in the process, but this seems fair to me.

MiloMoon
MiloMoon

I think it is better to tell a kid a month before signing day that there is not going to be a scholarship offer and to look elsewhere than to sign him, and then come August go opps, we had to many kids qualify and I am short a scholarship. Since you are the least needed on the team, you can go elsewhere. At least these kids have the chance to now sign with a school that wants them and has a scholarship available for them.

TideFanAtlanta
TideFanAtlanta

He hasn't "signed" with Alabama. Not only are your facts incomplete and twisted because he still has an offer, he has not "signed". You don't even know how it works do you?

John at MrSEC
John at MrSEC moderator

JBJ...

Designed to make Alabama look bad? I guess that's why LSU and Tennessee were also used.

No one at this site has roots for or against an SEC team.

Thanks for reading,

John

mb6783
mb6783

@JBJ The kid will be healthy next year. He has missed this year. Fact is, Bama did this kid wrong. Yes it happens at every school, but they did the kid wrong. This wasn't to bash Bama or LSU. Put yourself in this kids shoe's. Would you be happy sitting at home for a year, or paying your own way to school for a year after someone promised you a scholorship?

SouthernFriedSports
SouthernFriedSports

Excellent points are made here and this shows how the post above misses most of this story.

I agree that the SEC should have allowed standing NCAA policy (28 signee limit) to continue, since it was just implemented last year. At least let it go into effect in 2013 so that recruiting classes with early commitments could adjust to the new rule.

What disappoints me about Ward's post is that it fails to distinguish the actions of Nick Saban vis-a-vis those of Miles and Dooley. In both of the other cases, the recruit was simply told to go find someplace else to play. That's not the case here. If anything, Saban should be given some credit for trying to find another way of honoring his commitment. There's no evidence that Dooley or Miles did anything of the kind.

But since schools are prohibited from discussing specific recruits, bloggers and other people on message boards and talk radio seem to think it's quite Ok to publicly rebuke Alabama and Nick Saban.

Crimson__Heart
Crimson__Heart

@MiloMoon Exactly! That is what the new signing rules were designed to accomplish. Unfortunately, too few people understand that.

Josh Ward
Josh Ward

@TideFanAtlanta Please point out where in the story it says Taylor has signed with Alabama. And Taylor's offer for 2012 has been pulled, according to Taylor and Pritchett.

mb6783
mb6783

Yeah your right Crimson heart. no bias there at all. LOL. And by calling Josh a fool, you look like the fool. Keep up the good work josh.

Josh Ward
Josh Ward

@Crimson__Heart Shocker, the "objective" story you linked to is from an Alabama fan site. What research are you referencing?

TideFanAtlanta
TideFanAtlanta

@Josh Ward Unfortunately, Alabama coach Nick Saban is no longer willing to honor the scholarship he promised to give Taylor for the upcoming fall, according to Taylor." Misleading and you know it.

Changing to 25 limit has NOTHING to do with greyshirting. Get your facts before you spout off. YOU DON'T KNOW HOW IT WORKS. Taylor said the offer was good in another class. Which entirely different from "pulling" an offer. Which by the way Georgia recently did.

There is also nothing, nothing, nothing to keep Taylor or any other committ from changing this mind on NSD and going somewhere else. NOTHING.

TAYLOR IF YOU READ THIS: and I suspect you will, no ne has ever been hurt by greyshirting for Alabama. (John Parker Wilson, William Vlachos). If you receive a better offer, then take it and we wish you well. Otherwise, we would love to have you.

Crimson__Heart
Crimson__Heart

@mb6783 I would probably be willing to take you seriously did your post not look like it was written by a kindergartener with no concept of punctuation, spelling and grammar.

bob456
bob456

Instead of simply brushing off the content of the "Bama website" you should read it and reply. The fact that you merely say "shocker the objective story you linked to is from an Alabama fan site" speaks volumes. Don't you have anything to say? The content of that article is in stark contrast to the article you penned.

Crimson__Heart
Crimson__Heart

@Josh Ward@Crimson__Heart Saying that @GulfCoastTider is not an objective writer regarding signing limits is essentially saying that no fan can be objective regarding their team. I Bleed Crimson Red and its writers have an impeccable record in their reporting accuracy. I don't see this blog or any of its writers being carried by traditional media outlets, which is not the case with the writers at IBCR. They are educated men who are writers for more than a sports blog. It may behoove you to take a lesson from them.

By the way, of what SEC school are you a fan?

TideFanAtlanta
TideFanAtlanta

@Josh Ward Dude get a grip. The changing of the rule BY THE SEC to 25 has nothing to do with greyshirting. It was not to make greyshirting illegal. You are trying your best to ignore the facts.

This is PULLING an offer:

http://georgia.247sports.com/Article/UGA-pulls-offer-from-committed-prospect-10512

http://blogs.ajc.com/recruiting/2009/07/21/carver-columbus-coach-bans-uga-recruiters/

Pulling and delaying are not the same thing. But my guess is you are deliberately ignoring that or you are just to stupid to realize the difference.

Josh Ward
Josh Ward

@TideFanAtlanta The 25-player limit has nothing to do with it? Taylor said that was the reason given by Saban.

Crimson__Heart
Crimson__Heart

@John at MrSEC And GCBF is not anonymous to me. I know him and have great respect for how hard he works to accurately report on everything - not just Alabama's sports programs. @GulfCoastTider

Crimson__Heart
Crimson__Heart

@John at MrSEC Mr. Ward is intentionally misleading readers. The following is Justin Taylor's complete answer to the question, "How did Nick Saban explain it to you?"

“Coach Saban said he wished he would’ve been able to tell me this in August instead of now. He said the only reason he can’t sign me is because he can’t sign 26 people. They can only sign 25 people. He said he was going to sign me with the next class. BUT HE ALSO SAID HE WOULD SIGN A PIECE OF PAPER TO SHOW THAT THEY ARE KEEPING THEIR WORD – THEY ARE GOING TO SIGN IT AND THEY WANT ME TO SIGN IT TO MAKE SURE I KNOW I STILL HAVE MY SCHOLARSHIP.” (CAPS are to illustrate Taylor's comments that were left out - not because I am keyboard yelling.)

Now tell me again how Nick Saban is "...no longer willing to honor the scholarship," to Taylor. Saban is willing to honor it, just not with the 2012 class. Perhaps it is you who should pay closer attention to what you read. For me, Mr. Ward's opinion piece did not get any better with the third, fourth or fifth reading.

John at MrSEC
John at MrSEC moderator

Crimson__Heart...

If you think telling a kid two weeks before signing day that his 11-month commitment is now kaput is what the SEC presidents had in mind with their new rule, then it's you who fail to grasp what Josh was talking about.

By the letter of the law, this is fine and dandy. By the spirit of the law, it's not even close. Josh states pretty clearly that -- in his opinion -- the current rules don't go far enough to protect kids from having the rug pulled out from under them at the last minute.

The bottom line is this -- if this story had been penned about Kentucky or Auburn or Timbuktu State, you wouldn't have come here and defended the other school's tactics. In this case, Josh makes it ridiculously clear that -- in his opinion -- schools (Alabama, LSU and Tennessee are listed) shouldn't be allowed to sign kids and then tell them to grayshirt OR tell them at the last minute that they really don't have a scholarship offer. If your son had this happen to him, you'd understand just how nasty college recruiting can be. But you're looking at it from a fan perspective, not a plain ol' "human" perspective.

If schools offer scholarships and then pull them at the last minute -- based on no wrongdoing by the player -- that's a bad system. The SEC tried to fix it. It didn't go far enough in Josh's opinion.

Instead of sending us to read IBleedCrimsonRed.com and the pennings of an anonymous writer known as GulfCoastBamaFan, you probably should have actually read what Josh wrote in the first place.

John

Crimson__Heart
Crimson__Heart

@John at MrSEC I never said anyone hated Alabama. And if Mr. Ward understands the new signing rules well enough to have an informed (that word is very important) opinion, great! But his opinion is not informed. Instead of fabricating stories of my blatant Bama homerism, how about we discuss the new signing rules and how they worked in Taylor's case?

And perhaps I should have used the word foolish instead of fool, yet the fact remains that the new signing rules are not understood by Mr. Ward, as evidenced by this article.

John at MrSEC
John at MrSEC moderator

Crimson__Heart...

Yes, because being in Knoxville means someone's a Tennessee fan. I happen to be in the Knoxville area, too, and I'm told everyday that I'm a Bama fan by UT and Auburn fans... and a UT fan by Bama and Kentucky fans... and UT fans who know I'm from Kentucky label me a UK fan. I also lived in Columbus, Ohio and Charlotte, North Carolina... so I must be an Ohio State and UNC fan, too.

This site was started because I wanted a completely UNBIASED spot for SEC coverage. And judging from the hate mail I get every day telling me that we LOVE all 12 schools and HATE all 12 schools, I think we do a damn fine job of providing legit SEC news and objective opinions. You find one anti-Bama story on here and I'll find you another one that's pro-Bama. Same for every other school. We view each issue on its own, regardless of the school involved.

Josh -- who's not a UT fan, either, by the way -- simply wrote his opinion on the story. You're the one who called someone you don't know "a fool" and now you claim that there must be bias involved. Apparently you didn't see that Josh also included Tennessee and Derek Dooley in the story.

Of course you didn't. You see only what you want to see through your crimson lenses.

Well, here's the question -- in terms of national coverage, why is it that only an Alabama site is saying Saban's in the right here? Maybe the bias belongs to you and your Bama site rather than to the rest of America.

Coaches and schools do this type of stuff often. It stinks. Only someone dressed in their school's footy pajamas would claim that it's A-OK. Legal? Yes. Fair to kids? Nope. And that was Josh's point. Too bad you couldn't grasp it without crying that someone must hate Alabama if they write something about a topic that makes Bama (and LSU and Tennessee and others) look bad.

Crimson__Heart
Crimson__Heart

@John at MrSEC Then perhaps, Mr. Pennington, you should pass some of your reporting expertise onto Mr. Ward. He clearly does not understand what the new signing rules were designed to accomplish, nor does he seem to understand how they worked in Taylor's case.

As far as Mr. Ward, the earlier statement you made (which I can no longer seem to find), "Josh Ward hosts a daily, three-hour radio show in Knoxville, Tennessee," explains a lot. The fact that I can no longer find that comment explains a lot more.

John at MrSEC
John at MrSEC moderator

Crimson__Heart...

John Pennington from MrSEC.com, here... I appear weekly as the SEC analyst for CSS' "SportsNite" (gets into 13 states) and I do radio on 15-20 stations across the Southeast each week. I've worked in television for 20 years and radio and newspaper since high school. I also have seven Emmy Awards in a closet.

Josh Ward hosts a daily, three-hour radio show.

Mike Mitchell spent a decade in television and has authored a book.

When it comes to traditional media, I think we've been "carried" quite well.

Thanks for reading,

John

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