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SEC Takes No Action Toward Expansion Today

This morning, the presidents and chancellors of the SEC got together for a meeting.  According to a league statement, there were no expansion votes or action taken:


“The Presidents and Chancellors of the Southeastern Conference met on Monday for its regularly-scheduled fall meeting.  While they discussed a wide range of issues dealing with the changing landscape of intercollegiate athletics, no actions were taken with regards to expansion.”

Now, lets see if any leaks are sprung with regards to how many administrators would OK a Missouri application for membership… should Mizzou apply.

 


37 comments
Red Thompson
Red Thompson

The SEC needs to reconsider some facts. As a journalist myself, looking at television sets is old school.They should be looking at total viewership around the nation and world on not only televisions but internet sites, streamers, satellite radio and all video and audio sources. In this way, WVU brings SEC football to the whole nation.Because there are no jobs in the state, WVU has a unique national following and a great fan base in many, many states. Again, please look at not where WVU beings, which may place it low in academics, but look where it ends and you will find it is much closer to a Vandy than you may first think. WVU is one of the best engineering schools in the nation and has a number unique majors. WVU is certainly misunderstood by the SEC but with a little homework and a new outlook, that will change. We do appreciate Tennessee and Alabama sticking up for us. Remember, and again, it is like bringing in another Arkansas. So come on SEC, Bring on the Mountaineers!!!

Jamie Thornton
Jamie Thornton

As crazy as things are going, I think it's a mistake for the SEC to wait around. We're not getting any ACC schools. The two schools we can grab now( Mizzou and WVU) are not going to hang around forever. ONce MIzzou decided enough is enough, they will stay in the Big 12. Chip Brown (as much as I can't stand him, but he was right last year and was the first one to mention TCU would be the first to the big 12) is now saying WVU and Louisville will be added next to the Big 12. That would me we could lose our best two school options. If they're off the table and we never get someone from the acc, who does that leave? Cinci? USF? I mean, come on. You have to see what's going on around you.

Minnemo
Minnemo

All good points Andy. But Mizzou was favored in the game. On a bright note, they played OU much tougher in Norman than Bevo did at the fairgrounds. I want Mizzou to move but don't want them to be a laughing stock.

Minnemo
Minnemo

A week ago I thoight Mizzou was a good SEC fit. But after getting beat by K St I think they would be in over their heads. They need much more commitment to their football program to be relevant in the SEC. Maybe that will come....

GAforMU
GAforMU

I bet you here tonight, or tomorrow at the latest that MU has sent it's letter of withdrawal to the Big 12, they gathered the votes the last 3 days.

On October 6, flight BYA 335 left Columbia Regional Airport at 10 a.m. In the following 3 days, the plane, owned by Berry Aviation of San Marcos, TX took off and landed 15 times. Some of the cities it flew to include: Fayetteville, AR (University of Arkansas), Gainesville, FL (University of Florida), Oxford, MS (University of Mississippi), Knoxville, TN (University of Tennessee), Athens, GA (University of Georgia), and Columbia, SC (University of South Carolina).

The plane also visited Waco, TX, the home city of Baylor University. In the past, Baylor expressed intent to sue schools leaving the Big 12.

Guest
Guest

I think the race to teams with big TV markets is a risk of diluting the SECs greatest asset...passion. That passion is what separates the SEC from the others. It is why people throughout the country will watch a Alabama-Florida game. i find it humorous that Rutgers is a draw because of the big TV market. I have lived and worked in New York for 11 years and not once have I heard anyone talk about Rutgers football at work or anywhere else. I have heard about LSU, Tennessee, Auburn etc.

In football you shouldn't be bringing out quantifying statistics to measure who belongs. It's not that type of game.

MrMM
MrMM

To follow up with my recent comment, I do think the follwing will occur. The Big 12 will move back to 12 teams to show strength.

If Mizzou stays, then I expect the B12 to invite Boise and BYU to get to the 12.

If Mizzou leaves, then I expect them to invite Louisville, Cincinnati and West Virginia

MrMM
MrMM

Once the SEC privately lets the people in charge at Mizzou know that they have the votes then Mizzou will announce that they are withdrawling from the Big 12 and then Mizzou will apply for the SEC and then and only then the SEC will offically invite Mizzou. You can bet that the people took a straw vote this morning and will get back with Mizzou. I expect that either the invite will come by Friday or the announcement by Mizzou that they are staying in the Big 12. There will not be an application from Mizzou and a turn down by the SEC. The SEC would not belittle Mizzou that way.

MIZSEC
MIZSEC

People and conferences have funny reactions to change. Consider how the Oklahoma athletic director reacted to the news of A&M moving on to the SEC. He blurted out comments about Oklahoma not being a wall flower, investigating options and stirred up all kinds of Big 12 anxiety. I believe everything is being done a a slow methodical way. By Missouri moving slowly, they are allowing the Big 12 to acclimate to the idea of a Big 12 without Mizzou. By moving slowly, the Big 12 is now steadily moving forward inviting school's like TCU. As a hard core Mizzou fan, this can't happen soon enough or fast enough. Please don't interpret the slow methodical process as reluctance. There is tremendous exuberance for joining the SEC. As for this years team, were off to a slow start. Our starting quaterback left early for the NFL and can now be seen playing for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Like all programs there are have transition years. You'll note we played Oklahoma much, much closer than Texas. We've won 40+ games in the past four years and had the largest turn out in the history of ESPN College Game Day. The Tigers will be a great member of the SEC family if given the opportunity. Time to learn patience. SEC all the way. MIZ-SEC

p.i. reed
p.i. reed

Maybe the SEC should contract. Kentucky and South Carolina could help the new Big East.

p.i. reed
p.i. reed

Getting Missouri sure doesn't seem very easy. Perhaps SEC hierarchy doesn't like to be considered a rebound girlfriend?

Guest
Guest

The uninformed musings and speculation on fan message boards should not be the basis of action by competent administrations or the conference. Nonetheless, the message boards are entertaining and every once in a while a chestnut of truth falls from the rumor tree.

UofA72
UofA72

With all the back and forth Missouri seems to be doing (including the Missouri sites today), the SEC shouldn't consider them yet. If today's stories are true, maybe never.

HoustonVol
HoustonVol

The SEC will not do anything official until Mizzou announces that it is leaving the B12, not shopping, but Leaving the B12. Until that happens, there will not be any official action out of the SEC.

Kirk
Kirk

I am not sure what anyone thought would happen today. You have to apply to get into the SEC, and by all accounts Mizzou has not applied.....so there would be nothing coming out formally. More than likely this meeting was used to find out if Mizzou had the votes it needs or if there is more work to be done or if anything can be done. Mr. SEC is right on when he says "Now, lets see if any leaks are sprung with regards to how many administrators would OK a Missouri application for membership… should Mizzou apply."

John J.
John J.

Look at Misouri record versus West Virginia University record. The Sec would rather play Missouri and win than WVU and lose? Look at the record in baslketball same results. Which has the better record-WVU.

Guest
Guest

I wish all this double agent talk would get over with and finish this soap opera. If this goes another week I might not have a job anymore.

AllTideUp
AllTideUp

Andy is right about Kansas St. They were pretty competitive in Bill Snyder's first tenure and it looks like he's working his magic again. Some of today's best coaches sat under his tutelage. I can only imagine what that guy would have done with the resources of a strong program.

Texas Bronc
Texas Bronc

Remember it doesnt matter how you are playing now. It is a long term process and it will take years of good recruiting to eventually challenging the great teams.

Andy
Andy

KSU is ranked #18 in the country and is undefeated. They won at Miami (FL). They will probably win 9 or 10 games this year. KSU's coach is a legend. He has won Big 12 titles and gone to BCS bowl games. The game was on the road in a rain storm and turnovers were a factor. MU also missed some FGs. They lost by 1 TD.

What will be good about Mizzou in the SEC is that now when Mizzou loses the whole country won't say OMG you lost to KSU! You must suck! Even when KSU is undefeated and ranked #18 and it was a road game. Now Mizzou can lose to a 2-2 Tennessee team everyone will say, oh, well it was Tennessee, that makes sense. Even though KSU is better than Tennessee.

SEC gets so much more respect, some of it deserved, some not.

Karen
Karen

I have lived in Northern Va dc metro area for over 30 yrs....like you no one tunes in to listen to northern school football.but when ANY southern team is playing, YES, which ever team is covered we watch. Although as of late, we try to watch ECU, but are sent to the internet to watch live streaming video. NO ONE will find more football passion than schools from the south. I'm from North Carolina and will always be a Pirate fan..they bring to NC football the passion that NO other school can deliver. Unfortunately, many do not realize their goldmine given a few extra dollars thrown their way would produce...Just ask Skip Holtz !!!!!

HoustonVol
HoustonVol

I think the B12 invites L'ville and WVU regardless of Mizzou. If Mizzou goes then they will invite either Cincy or Memphis, my bet is Cincy. There will be some pressure not to leave a BCS team out inthe cold instead of elevating a team. The only difference. Memphis shows that it is willing to spend the money to improve their facilities and elevate their programs. Cincy has not shown that they can do that even with the BCS money that flowed in under Kelly. So with either you get top shelf basketball. The question is which football program has more potential? Plus with Memphis, you will be planting a B12 flag into the heart of SEC country, the conference that just took two of your top programs.

skillet
skillet

Talk about coming in humble, with your hat in your hand. At least the A&M fans didn't look like they were flat begging. Of course they were a great fit...where MU seems more like are tryin their best to contort their square peg to fit in the round hole.

There is no greater dichotomy in conference culture between the SEC and B1G. Imagine a situation where a school's first choice was to be in the SEC and they laid out why they were a great fit from a cultural, academic, rivalry and geographic sense. And the SEC said, no thanks, we are taking someone else. Then that same team showed up a year later and said the same thing to the B1G. Do you think the B1G would give them the time of day?

Missouri is understandably running away from a situation...not running to a situation. Unlike A&M (who has considered the SEC for a couple of decades), Missouri's interest in the SEC is a few months old. If they had been accepted in the B1G, they'd currently be looking down their nose at the SEC (and the south) with the rest of that conference. Now they are bending over backward trying to say why they would fit?

Mountaineer
Mountaineer

If you call not winning a conference championship since 1969 "transition years" then by all means, keep enjoying 20-30 more years of transition IF Mizzou goes to SEC

CoMoTiger88
CoMoTiger88

I am starting to realize the SEC might not take us. Please don't leave us with TCU, Louisville, and BYU. And Texas... especially Texas.

Guest
Guest

Great. WVU's few additional wins still results in a poor state, with a small population and no meaningful economic value to the conference. Thank you for your interest in the Southeastern Conference.

skillet
skillet

That begs the obvious question, where is the good recruiting going to come from?

Missouri gets by with a smoke and mirror spread offense and roster full of kids Texas kids the bigger B12 schools didn't want. That pipeline will be shut off when they stop playing several games in the state. Do we really think Mizzou is going to compete against SEC schools in recruiting SEC states? Especially when they can't get fat off the old B12 north division they used to play?

Guest
Guest

2 of the top programs? Texas A&M is not a top program. Mizzou has had good success as of late, but hasn't won anything to state a claim as one of the top programs of the Big12. OU and Texas have ran this conference since it's inception, with Nebraska have a say every now and again.
I also think that whatever projected increases in revenue that Missouri would have by switching would be used up in keeping up with the Jones's of the SEC. Missouri spent 53.1Million on the athletic program in 09-10. That would put them 10th in spending, only ahead of the bottom feeders of Ole Miss, Vandy and Miss St.
It's a bad move by Mizzou, and they should stay and compete in the Big12 instead of trying to become Arkansas 2.0 in the SEC.

MIZ-SEC
MIZ-SEC

I grew up in Big 10 country and can't stand the thought of being in that conference. The SEC is a far superior conference. As for your comment about having you hat in your hand. That's just a little humility. I'm not accustomed to the trash talking ways of the internet. Missouri has had a strong program historically, but much better in recent years. We were one game away from going to the National Championship in 2007 and our past 3 quarterbacks are in the NFL. If the SEC happens for us, we will be a great addition and become competitive quickly.

HoustonVol
HoustonVol

It is all up to your BOC and president. A&m laid a blueprint for Mizzou to follow. It is Mizzou that has to take the next step.

Guest
Guest

" a poor state, with a small population and no meaningful economic value"

Funny. That's how most Northerners view every state in the south. So please get off of your high horse.

UofA72
UofA72

Spending that extra money to keep up with the Jones's in the SEC puts them way ahead of Bevo's "battered wives" in the reduced Big 12.

guest
guest

When "TV markets" win out over passion it's a slippery slop to go down. SECs core value is passion and they should be careful to move away from that. That is their product and that is what differentiates them from the other conferences.

HoustonVol
HoustonVol

Yes two of the top programs, I did not say the two top programs. A&M and Mizzou are in the top half of the conference in terms of winning, and most importantly TV markets. While A&M shares all of their markets with Texas, Mizzou really does not with another in state university. Pro teams is a difference matter. So yes Mizzou and A&M are two of the B12's top programs, regardless of the actual wins on the field.

Hillbillydelux
Hillbillydelux

See, just look at the passion (and hostility) that adding WVU would bring to the SEC! People keep talking about tv markets, etc., but what makes college football is the passion shown by its fans. I just don't see much of that coming from the "Show me" state.

ben
ben

That further explains the naivety of "Northerners". Google bankrupt states and see where most of the southern states rank. Don't fall off that high horse. It is a long way down.



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