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Report: WVU To Replace Missouri In Big 12… After One More Season

According to The New York Post, West Virginia will replace Missouri in the Big 12… after one more season with the Tigers in 2012-13:


“A source said the Big 12, by holding Missouri, might hold at 10 teams for next season and then consider a jump to 16 teams.  Louisville and Cincinnati are under consideration as well as Boise State and BYU.”


Earlier this month, Big 12 interim commissioner Chuck Neinas said that his league was set for next year and that Missouri wouldn’t leave for at least another year… if it left at all.

Last Friday, Missouri officials stated that any moves made in the coming days would be made with next season in mind. 

Yesterday, MU chancellor Brady Deaton did not withdraw his school from the Big 12 during a board of directors meeting (as some sources in Missouri had suggested). 

The Columbia Tribune reported last night that one school source indicated Monday was too soon “to work out several details with both the Big 12 and Southeastern Conference before formally completing the withdrawal process.”

Also, being tossed around the web is the fact that Georgia AD Greg McGarity said yesterday that the league almost has its 13-team schedule set and that it isn’t working on a 14-game plan.  Of course, for legal/stealth reasons, it’s unlikely anyone in the SEC would admit to considering 14 schools before a 14th school is actually announced.

So is it possible the SEC will play with 13 teams next year and that Missouri will be forced to go through one last Big 12 season?  Anything’s possible.

But the bottom line is money.  If MU has the cash to pay a big buyout fee, it would probably be pretty tough to keep them in the Big 12 against their will.  (It will be interesting to see if the Big East can really hold onto Pittsburgh and Syracuse until 2014, as it says it will.)

It could be that Deaton and SEC commissioner Mike Slive are figuring out just how much money Mizzou can expect to make over the next couple of years before the school decides to jump now or suffer through a farewell tour.

More than likely, Neinas’ comments were a negotiating ploy only.  We have been told by several people across the SEC that Missouri is expected to be in the league by next summer… right alongside Texas A&M.

Also, we’re not buying The New York Post story.  At all. 

Here’s why — some in the Big 12 would like to stay as small as a nine-team conference.  Others would like to stay at 10 or 12.  No one has said a word about 16 teams.

And if Texas is worried about losing influence — and it reportedly is — bringing in seven new voting members to the league wouldn’t be the school’s top priority.  Which matters because Texas still rules the Big 12 roost (along with Oklahoma).

In addition, one big reason to stay at nine or 10 schools is money.  It’s possible the Big 12 schools will make more money with a smaller league.  Would the addition of seven schools like BYU and Cincinnati and West Virginia really bring in enough money to keep everyone’s current payout the same?  Very doubtful.

Again, anything is possible when politics and money are involved, but we still believe Missouri will be playing in the SEC East next fall.  Any other development would be very, very surprising.

After all, Deaton said that he did not vote on any league matters at the Big 12 meeting yesterday and he left the room for “the last several hours” of the get-together. 

“We feel a great urgency to clarify (things) as quickly as possible,” Deaton said last night.  “It’s hard to put a timeframe on it.  Our hopes were days, possibly a week or two.  The sooner, the better.”

“Over the last two or three weeks, we’ve reached a firmness of where we’re headed, where we want to focus our attention.  Our head has to outweigh our heart in achieving some of our objectives because our heart might not lead us in the right direction for the University of Missouri.”

Still sounds like Missouri’s head is leading it to the SEC.

 


15 comments
Dawgsfan82
Dawgsfan82

When Mizzou joins the S-E-C, I say welcome. On thing you must learn to say is Ya'll instead of "you guys". Go Dawgs!

@JMoney1536
@JMoney1536

Ya'll is most common up hear throughout most of Missouri. Especially south of 70--btw, I can't wait for my first conference trip to Athens M-I-Z...S-E-C!!!!!!!

Gator
Gator

Oh, and I forgot Kansas! They now have room to play Mizzou.

So now we're down to 7 Big 12 teams looking to add a game.

AllTideUp
AllTideUp

Well, technically some of that probably won't happen. The SEC may move to 9 eventually, but they probably won't do it next year. That's a lot of new logistics to handle in one off season and things such as that are normally already handled by now.

I suppose it could work out the way you are laying it out, but I don't think the SEC members are committed to moving to 9 games yet. There will probably be a lengthy discussion on that before any decision is made.

GeoffDawg
GeoffDawg

Neinas has been wrong on everything else so far. Why start to believe him now?

skillet
skillet

Your taking Neinas at face value on public comments. Chuck's been around the block more than anybody. As the story said, I'm sure this is a lot more about leverage and negotitating than trying to keep us informed.

GeoffDawg
GeoffDawg

That's my point. Everything he's said publicly has been an attempt to sabotage any interest between MU and the SEC. It's been blatant and obvious and as such, I don't take anything he says at face value. That's why any comments or statements from him mean pretty much zilch.

GeoffDawg
GeoffDawg

Thus far since the firing of Dan Beebe:

A&M will stay
Missouri has no interest in leaving
Missouri will grant their tv rights to the Big 12
Missouri will not fit culturally or academically with the SEC
Missouri will pay maximum possible exit fee
Missouri will not leave until 2013

In my opinion, Neinas has been attempting to play the PR game and turn public sentiment against Mizzou leaving. While it may have worked with the fanbases predisposed to opposing their departure, it’s been much too heavy handed to dissuade the applicable MU powerbrokers. I don’t know if he’s just following Texas’ lead of pushing through his agenda no matter what but he would’ve done better with a subtler approach.

skillet
skillet

Not sure if I agree. I think Chuck (and the rest of the B12) realize that keeping an unhappy Mizzou makes no sense. There's no reason to sabatoge any interest at this point. Missouri wants to leave the B12. The SEC needs a 14th team. The B12 needs to move on with schools that want to be there.

But he still has to look out for the best interest of the remaining members and conference as a whole. I think this is more about making sure the bridge to WVU replacing them is in place a lot more than trying to keeping them in the conference of gumming up the move to the SEC.

John Bragg
John Bragg

I buy the logic of Missouri playing one lame duck year. Everything's a negotiation, and leaving in 2012 would hurt the Big 12 more than it would really help Missouri. 9 teams have to scramble for OOC oppoents, the Big 12's Fox contract could be at risk with 9 teams, both sides start paying lots of lawyers. That's a lot of reason ($$$) for the Big 12 to want Missouri to stick around for one year, and make big concessions on the exit fee.

On the other hand, what does Missouri get by moving immediately rather than in 2013? What does the SEC really get? The SEC is prepared to play with 13 in 2012, it would create hassles for a year, but I don't see $$$$ costs in a 13-team league.

If the Big 12 wants Missouri to stick around for a year and pay a $1M exit fee, why do you reject that option in favor of an immediate jump and as big a lawsuit as Kenneth Starr can dream up? Missouri has taken their time at every step with this process, why does that change? Mike Silve has apparently made it a priority to at least look like he isn't raiding and pillaging other leagues, why does that change?

Milo Moon
Milo Moon

John, I have to disagree with you on this. I think Mizzou wants to leave for next year, and the SEC wants them for 2012 also. However there are a lot of issues and money at stake with Mizzou leaving for next year. It causes a lot of scheduling issue if the B12 is not able to find a replacement school for next year. TCU was an easy grab to replace A&M. TCU had already gone through the process to leave the MWC and had not officially joined the BE yet, so they could slide right into the B12. The only other schools out there without conference football ties are BYU and ND, and both bring baggage that a lot of the B12 schools don't want to deal with. You see the issues TLN causes, well BYU has their own network also. If you do not have a replacement for Mizzou and have to play as a 9 team conference, each school would have to find one or two OOC games at the last minute. Every school (except the SEC) has their 2012 schedules set for next year. There are few if any schools that are still looking for games. So you would be forced to buy out a school's game with another team, and then pay them to play you. So you will be stuck adding newbie FBS schools like UNT, UTSA, Buffalo, WKY to the schedule at a premium. Or you can give Mizzou a sweetheart deal to stay one more year and give the B12 time. Remember - Mizzou has been partnered with some of these schools for a century. For the B12 would it be easier/cheaper to pay Mizzou $15 million and waive exit fees in exchange for one more year in the conference or collect $20 million from them and let them leave and use that $20 million to schedule games or pay fees to have a team join quickly?

Gator
Gator

With the addition of Mizzou, the SEC will most likely be looking to move to a 9 game conference schedule meaning every SEC team will need to buy out one of their OOC games.

12 SEC OOC games needing to be bought out + 9 Big 12 teams looking for games. Seems like a workable solution for all involved.

And of course, great news for Texas... they'll have room for A&M again so really just 8 Big 12 teams looking for games.

DV80
DV80

Howdy Gator,

Good posts!

Gig'Em!

MIZ_SEC
MIZ_SEC

Great summary Milo, and this doesn't even touch on the potential void of the Big 12 TV contracts if the conference plays with only nine members. The Big 12 situation is much more complex than most realize, which is the primary cause in Mizzou's delay.

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