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NCAA Ends Cam Newton Investigation

1. NCAA finds no major violations at Auburn.

2. Investigation included IRS documents and bank records.

3. Jeff Schultz: Go ahead and whine. But I’m not sure how you can fault the NCAA on this.

 

 


11 comments
Bulldog
Bulldog

Cam was going to MSU..until his father announced to him and his family that Cam would be attending Auburn. This was Cam's father's decision. Not Cam's. All is water under the bridge..What is done has been done...
Many rules need to be changed though. Clearly a rule was broken when Cecil admitted to shopping Cam to MSU and according to the rule at that time Cam should have immediately been ruled ineligible. Instead, the NCAA swoops in and changes the rule to allow Cam to play. You can't blame fans of other schools who have been penalized like USC, Ohio State, etc if they feel like an injustice was served here.

ajp40505
ajp40505

John, just one small point on your assertion that Cam Newton was lightly recruited coming out of JUCO and no school would have paid $200,000 for his services. To be blunt, that is an absurd statement. I've been watching SEC football since the 1950's and Cam Newton stands with Hershel Walker as the most dominating players I've ever seen in the conference. Any college coach with an eye for talent could see the Newton skill set.

vic
vic

just don't get caught feeding a potential recruit a hamburger at a barbaque like Pearle did. Out bidding another school's $180k offer? Naa There's nothing to see here folks. Move along.

TheTruth
TheTruth

people like Watchman wanted Auburn to get in NCAA trouble so badly, that they make themselves look foolish. They act as if they are some expert on NCAA investigations and know everything there is to know about what went on. When in reality all they have done is read message boards and media coverage. So pathetic.

Just maybe, MAYBE, outside of the fantasy land of bagmen, conspiracies and corruption theories, Cam Newton didn't know he was being shopped by his father (you are a complete idiot if you deny that it is at least a possibility). And just MAYBE Auburn didn't pay the Newtons (again you are a complete idiot if you don't acknowledge that as a possibility).

If the NCAA looked and walked away and the FBI and IRS were involved, I am pretty sure I will go with their finding and ignore "experts" like Watchman.

Great job of coverage on this Mr.SEC. You have been all over it. Thanks!

GUEST
GUEST

haters gonna hate

tradeassociation
tradeassociation

@Watchman:

Excuse me, but it wasn't just the NCAA. Even if the NCAA wanted to sweep it under the rug, the FBI and IRS wouldn't want to. The FBI wouldn't want to because it is a federal crime, and the IRS wouldn't want to because they want taxes to be paid on that money. So what do you have to say about the FBI and IRS looking into the personal, business and church financial records of both Newtons and not finding a thing? Look, this is what gets me about this whole thing: people are going to believe what they want to believe no matter what the facts say. While driving home from class, I actually heard this sports talk show host say something to the effect of "Well they said that O.J. Simpson was innocent too" followed by "Well, I guess nobody killed Nicole Simpson." I am not making it up. The guy actually compared this case to the O.J. Simpson one.

And an eyewitness to what? This is what a lot of people seem to not realize: there were never actually any charges against Cam Newton. The NCAA was just doing their due diligence, and I have no problem with that whatsoever ... I actually wish the NCAA had more power (subpoena power) in cases like this. But normally, you have actual accusations - someone making specific claims about specific wrongdoing involving specific persons. This was not the case. No one made a claim to the NCAA that Cam Newton received this X of money, or some Auburn coach/booster/alum paid Cecil Newton Y amount of money. No such claim was ever made to the NCAA, to the media, to the police, to anybody. This wasn't Phil Fulmer reporting Alabama to the NCAA over Albert Means, or some wannabe sports marketers providing a bunch of receipts and phone records to Yahoo Sports and filing a breach of contract lawsuit. But did anyone actually come out and say "I paid Cam Newton $180,000" or "I know who paid Cam Newton $180,000" or "I saw Cam Newton with $180,000"? Nope.

Now I could be wrong. Maybe at some point during the many stories that have been written on this case over the past year, someone might have made a reference to an actual, concrete charge - not evidence to prove the charge, mind you, but an actual, concrete charge or accusation made against Newton to the NCAA or anyone else - that was ever made at any point. If so, I missed it. All I have seen is rumors concerning varying people (Bobby Lowder, some guy who owns greyhound racing tracks, etc.) and varying amounts of money (everything from $100,000 to $300,000). But news that someone actually went to the NCAA, the SEC, the police or anybody else and said "somebody at Auburn or someplace else is paying this kid off and you really need to look into it" ... I haven't seen a thing. All I have seen is the "well if he asked for $180,000 from Mississippi State, we know he didn't go to Auburn for free" flawed logic. (Why was it flawed? Because Cecil Newton himself said that it would take something EXTRA to get his kid to MSU.)

Watchman
Watchman

This was pretty much a foregone conclusion. The last thing the NCAA wanted is another Reggie Bush/USC mess on their hands. Unless they had the Pope for an eyewitness, they weren't going to do anything about this, and perhaps not even then. Doesn't change what almost certainly happened, just further enshrines the principle that even implausible deniability will be fine as long as they don't want to bust you.

johnmrsec
johnmrsec

ajp40505...

He looked great as a player at Auburn, yes. How'd he look at Florida?

The list of schools offering him scholarships after junior college were Auburn, Arizona, Kansas State, Mississippi State, North Carolina and Oklahoma. The only powers after him were Oklahoma and Auburn.

Sorry, but if that drives a kid's price up to $200,000, then there must be a lot of millionaire players out there running around, because there are a lot of players who have more suitors than Newton had out of juco.

Thanks for reading,
John

Evan
Evan

Let them hate Auburn. This is what you call the pot calling the kettle black. There is not innocent party in the SEC.

Watchman
Watchman

There was a charge against Cam Newton, and it was made by his own father. Cecil Newton's admitted action in seeking pay for his son's services rendered Cam ineligible according to NCAA rules. How much more concrete can you get than an admission by the guilty party? If Auburn never gave the Newtons one red cent Cam still would not have been allowed to play unless the rules were set aside. The fact that that NCAA made a ridiculous exception (Daddy did it and I didn't know) and refused to enforce their own rules back then only adds support to my contention that they have no interest in finding anything about the Newtons.

The IRS/FBI facet of the investigation on which you place such weight was focused on an unrelated matter that involved some parties that might have provided money, but I've never seen anything confirming that they were digging into the Newtons. The fact the NCAA may have looked at some IRS records is a far cry from the IRS digging into the matter.

tradeassociation
tradeassociation

See, that is the issue ... folks just wanted the NCAA to nail Newton regardless. Look, the NCAA hasn't spent 13 months investigating Newton and Auburn over Cecil Newton's attempt to shake Mississippi State down. The NCAA has spent the last 13 months investigating Auburn to see if Auburn or anyone connected to Auburn paid Cam Newton. And if the NCAA had no interest in finding anything about the Newtons, why keep the investigation open 13 months? They could have announced the investigation closed immediately. Instead, it was their keeping the investigation open this long that made everyone think that they had something, and increased the pressure on them to act.

"The IRS/FBI facet of the investigation on which you place such weight was focused on an unrelated matter that involved some parties that might have provided money, but I've never seen anything confirming that they were digging into the Newtons."

That is flat out nonsense. Totally 100% untrue. More "I believe what I want to believe" stuff. An unrelated matter ... what unrelated matter? Why else would the FBI investigate some tiny church and an obscure trucking business that was barely breaking even, and JUST HAPPEN to do it at the exact same time as the NCAA investigation? And why would they want Cam Newton's bank account information AT ALL? Also, Yahoo Sports, ESPN, USA Today, Fox News, the Alabama papers, EVERYONE stated that the Newtons turned their financial records over to the FBI and the NCAA specifically because of this case, and that the FBI was going to let the NCAA know if they found anything and vice versa, as is the custom of both.

Also, for all the "he never should have been allowed to get back on the field after that PROVEN violation that his father ADMITTED to" ... excuse me, I hope you aren't an Alabama fan, because the NCAA didn't bat an eye at Julio Jones getting a free fishing trip from an Alabama booster before the 2009 season. Jones just repaid the money, and went on to play a key role in their national title season. Even if you aren't a 'Bama fan, I'd certainly like to know why all the outrage against the guy who didn't get a cent from ANYBODY (Newton) and the guy who got the free fishing trip from a guy that he KNEW was a booster, and had no intention of reimbursing that booster until he got caught.

Not picking on the Tide or Jones, just pointing out that tons of incidents like this happen all the time, where violations occur, and the NCAA does nothing. The NCAA was in a very difficult position: they would have had to vacate Auburn games for something that was done before Newton ever set foot at Auburn, and this after the NCAA had initially declared Auburn ineligible. Auburn and the SEC had already informed the NCAA of this before the season, and the NCAA went ahead and gave Newton permission to play anyway. All of this was reported by ESPN, USA Today, Fox Sports, everybody else at the time, but again, folks simply believe what they choose to.

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