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Mizzou Needs to Mi-Zippit

Earlier this evening we posted comments in response to an AP story in which an anonymous Missouri official said that his school prefers the Big Ten to the SEC.  “That’s what’s left,” the source said of Mike Slive’s conference.

Immediately, Missouri fans set out to prove that they really are a fit for the SEC by pushing conspiracy theories:

* ESPN was making the story up (even though it was an AP story and not an ESPN story)

* Kansas people were planting the story

* Anti-Missouri media members were working against the Tigers

Except… this isn’t the first time Mizzou has had a problem keeping its collective mouth closed.  In our initial story, we pointed out that MU officials had publicly bungled their attempt to jump to the Big Ten last year.

And let’s not forget that it was just last month when another anonymous Missouri source leaked word that the SEC had invited the school to join.  That remark was immediately shot down by the Southeastern Conference.

Now, for those Missourians who believe this small-time stuff, answer this question?  At what point during Texas A&M’s courtship did an Aggie source say, “Well, we’d prefer to go to the Pac-12.”  At what point did anyone in College Station say, “Yep, Slive’s already called us.”

That’s right.  It never happened.

And when was the last time an expansion-related leak emanated from anywhere inside the SEC itself?  There’s the occasional remark about finding a 14th school, yes, but no one ever leaks a peep about who that selection might be.

Slive is running the sports equivalent of the Manhattan Project while Missouri appears to have more Deep Throats than a sleazy video joint.  That’s not a good match.

If Missouri is going to get along in the Kingdom of Slive someday, its school officials will need to learn to either close their mouths or speak in unison when they open them.

The Big 12 is every man for himself.  But that league is a house of cards built upon sand just above a fault line.

In the SEC, there’s the company line and then there’s… well, that’s pretty much it.  There’s the company line.

So if Missouri’s going to join the SEC, it’s going to have to make sure everyone on the payroll is capable of zipping his lips.

 


109 comments
mgr
mgr

From what I can tell, this whole college realignment stuff is like a game of chess or as one article called it a game of Risk where there is a lot of strategy and you attempt to outsmart your opponents. Could this be just part of the game to throw off Ken Starr and others? To try and play down the hype of the SEC snagging two big 12 teams? This just seems too fishy and plain out stupid for an official to come out and say this.

MIZ_SEC
MIZ_SEC

Well wouldn't this be interesting (hope this isn't breaking a rule Mr. SEC)

OKStateTweets Pistol Pete@Gswaim@ChipBrownOB
was "administrator" quoted yesterday in story about preferring B10 over SEC to sabotage Missouri.

GSwaim BigTime TV/Radio@OKStateTweets
I've already had four media members and a Big 12 coach tell me the same thing. If found to be true, ouch!!
17 minutes ago

DHagy
DHagy

I have said from the get-go that I think Mizzou would be a GREAT fit for the SEC. It help open another market for recruiting and would provide a natural border war for UK. I hope they are offered a spot!

WDE>Bammer
WDE>Bammer

I am not surprised to see all of the Bammer support for Mizzou on here. They want Auburn out of the division to make it easier for them to get to Atlanta. They also love the fact that moving Auburn to the East would take give them mulligan on the Iron Bowl. Tennessee would come off of Bammer's permanent schedule and thus allow them to switch out TN for MU. Talk about a dream scenario for Bammers.

I must say that I am impressed with this small contingent of MU fans coming to this board and banging the SEC drumbeat. MIZ SEC for example says that Gov. Jay Nixon and everyone is 100% on board with this. I've made an attempt to search for ANY comments Nixon has made on the situation and there are none. The facts are that MU really wants the Big Ten and they are playing a little game to see if they can bring Delany out of expansion hibernation. We should not accept a school that is culturally Midwestern and who doesn't truly want to be here. MU being allowed to join will be a very sad day for the SEC and will tarnish Slive's legacy.

Scott Reid
Scott Reid

John,

Can we be sure that this wasn't an intentional leak? I mean doesn't the idea that Missouri covets a place in the Big Ten and then settles for the SEC severely hamper any tortuous interference lawsuit by Baylor and the Little 8? Imagine arguing that it was all a master plan by the SEC to destroy the conference when Missouri is suspected of trying to leave for a conference OTHER than the SEC but ends up in the SEC as it's backup choice. Then it sounds like Missouri is the cause of the collapse and the SEC played a very small role in any damage caused.

Just wondering.

strickinms
strickinms

Enough on Mizzou. Let's get FSU in and quit the bickering.

MIZ_SEC
MIZ_SEC

The only thing not known is if the dolt who wrote this crap piece was actually fired by Mizzou, as I have heard, or not.

We already know he is a stringer for the Associated Press. That means he's not even an employee of theirs but is paid by the story.

We know he was a visiting professor of journalism at Mizzou but, obviously, no longer is employed by the university.

From what I have read in other places he was not physically at the BOC meeting and as such would not have had access to anyone who was actually involved in the meeting.

I'm sure he knows at least on person at Mizzou who he could label as an "official" who prefers the Big 10 to the SEC.

I maintain that the folks at the SEC know the scoop and this is one guy who has an agenda trying to hurt his former employer.

Also, who immediately picked up this story? ESPN and we all know what their agenda is.

MIZ_SEC
MIZ_SEC

Hilarious how one anonymous quote gets all of SEC nation in an uproar.

This is clearly a sabotage attempt by someone to kill the Mizzou to SEC movement, and most likely it is a random faculty member that is upset that Mizzou is not holding out for the Big Ten.

The reality is there is a fringe contingent of Mizzou faculty that want Big Ten or bust because those schools typically pay higher salaries, offer more benefits, and have generally higher academic snob prestige than the SEC. THAT'S IT. This group would love nothing more than to sabotage a Mizzou move to the SEC because they simply don't care about what is best for Mizzou long-term, they only care about what is best for their career.

Unfortunately, it seems like everyone is taking this quote and running with it.

Dave
Dave

3 points --

1) The comment might alienate SEC fan bases, but it's also a reminder that Missouri wanted out when Nebraska and Colorado did. That serves some PR and legal issues that benefit the SEC long-term. Right idea, poor execution.
2) Tier 1 and Tier 2 revenue are basically national products via national distributors. Tier 3 revenue, however, has everything to do with eyeballs and content, and Texas/B10 have demonstrated the enormous potential for Tier 3 revenue. Texas and Missouri media markets mean Alabama, Georgia, and Florida can make far more Tier 3 money over the long haul. On the flip side, the SEC brand makes a much more compelling Tier 3 product for Missouri and AM than B12 content. Seriously, how does AM put together anything in the shadow of ESPN's Longhorn Network if it's essentially the same basic teams?
3) Conference alignments directly follow media distribution technology. ESPN and Comcast created the Big East because Gavitt recognized their need for content. The media business model, because it funds college sports, drives all of this. If sufficient marketplace and regulatory changes over the next 2 decades replace the regional cable carrier with national wireless broadband, then conference alignments will shift again in response to the changes. Funny how we all think this sort of capitalist process remains infallible in the distribution of health services but fails miserably when it comes to college sports.

statesman
statesman

mrsec brace yourself. Mizzou leaving puts a dagger in the Big 12. Texas has done far worse for less. However this may be worth $300 mill. The Big12 is down to Texas and states w/ small population when Mizzou leaves. Name a major metro area in Olahoma, Kansas & Iowa. Even the schools that they are asking to replace Mizzou lack tv sets. I assume at some point ABC will redo the tv deal. There are many reasons to smear Mizzou.

Also why hasn't anyone heard from professors at Pitt, Cuse, or any of the other schools that are moving. IThe SEC is a great conference, but you may need to understand Bevo just a little better.

Gsc
Gsc

The AP article exposes the truth. If given the choice between the SEC and the Big Ten, Missouri would choose the Big Ten. Missouri is a mid-western state and the Big Ten is primarily a mid-western conference. When the Big Ten expands and starts looking for teams, look for Missouri to "explore its options."

badgercat
badgercat

The season's not over. How many times has the SEC not been the top rated conference during the BCS era? Good grief...the final rankings, BCS champs, number of bowl appearances, bowl wins, and the NFL rosters help to drive it home that the SEC is SECond to none in college football...year in and year out. I would HOPE that another conference like the Big XII would be able to slip in once in a while.

Still, the Big XI is 0-3 against the SEC in the BCSCG. 0-3. As you probably know, the SEC has MORE BCS titles than ALL other conferences combined. Unreal...

Now...when was the Big XII, or Big 8 EVER approached by CBS or ABC for a national TV deal? Much less get one that beats ABC's deal with ALL other conferences on a routine basis. It will only get bigger and drive more revenue when Slive and his team sit down with ESPN, CBS, Comcast, NBC or whoever else wants to get the best Saturday afternoon football in the nation to advertise. Don't bet against some sort of SEC-type network either.

It's no wonder that the SEC doesn't have an exit fee. Wonder why the Big XII does...?

Go ahead and get UL, and Cincy to back fill. That will be laughable...

TigerEyez13
TigerEyez13

to jtreehorn. you say, "Other than LSU and Bama, who really impresses this year?"

Sure, maybe this year. But look at the BCS champs the last several YEARS. They have all been SEC teams. So the powers within the SEC may be cyclical based on graduation and NFL drafts. But the SEC consistently fields great teams.

lodgerVol
lodgerVol

Can we just relax? Who cares if an "anonymous" said what we have all known for over a year? Some school officials at MO wanted the Big 10. Is that news?
Maybe this "anonymous" was trying to show some older academic bureaucrats that the sports people "really tried" for the Big 10.
We have enough Top Secret stuff in America, hundreds of millions of pages a year, without involving college damn football!

jtreehorn
jtreehorn

MIzzou = blah!

I'm not buying the Slive hype. Only a few national brands left in play. OU, ND, FSU, TX and thats about it. SEC is diluting itself and if Slive was as savvy as so many seem to think, he would be knocking down doors in Tallahassee and Norman. Lots of talent in the south and lots of "traditional" power houses having down cycles has help SEC. Kramer was the genius. This is cyclical and only a matter of time before the momentum swings to other conferences. Other than LSU and Bama, who really impresses this year? The rest of the SEC is pedestrian.

I have a real hard time believing MIzzou v. LSU and Mizzou v. Bama, get more TV sets or dollars than FSU v LSU/Bama.

WDE>Bammer
WDE>Bammer

John, keep up the good work. While I think adding Missouri would be a sad day for this very fine conference, I have no control over it. You also deserve full credit for being the first to identify them as a potential candidate, even though that hack Clay Travis is trying to take credit for it.

I think I will go cook some bacon in honor of this weekend's game. WDE.

johnmrsec
johnmrsec

Folks...

A few reminders:

1. If you get too ugly or use curse words in the comment boxes, we delete the posts.

2. Due to the number of people who come here link to ads or to their own websites as free advertising, we try to nuke all posts with links.

Now, one note on this story. As we pointed out in our initial report, the source could be one guy with a dissenting opinion. That said, there aren't many media folks I know who would intentionally use a quote from a crummy source.

Also, it's highly doubtful that this is a conspiracy theory. If ESPN and the Big 12 wanted to run this campaign they'd have done it with Texas A&M. A&M had no leaks like this one.

Finally, there's nothing wrong with sources -- even anonymous ones. Those sources help break darn near every story you read in any paper every day. The trick is... you have to know the track record of the writer or his organization before trusting him to bring you info from quality sources.

If Missouri officials convince Mike Slive and Bernie Machen that they're good to go with the SEC then that's likely all the convincing that will be needed.

But eventually, MU needs to plug the leaks. Or get better at their PR. If they didn't flirt with the Big Ten last year, they sure made it very well known to the world and the rest of their Big 12 mates that they were willing to flirt. If I were an MU guy, I don't know how much faith I'd have in the administration.

But that's an outsider's perspective. (That said, I've got a partner on this site who lives in St. Louis and he's not been very impressed with the way the Tigers have handled their business, either.)

Thanks to all for reading,
John

SecFan
SecFan

All Slive wants is eyeballs and a legacy equal to Kramer's. He'll take Missouri in a heartbeat, diminishing the culture and traditions of the SEC, after which he will retire and wait patiently for all the herd-running pundits to annoint him the greatest commissioner who ever lived.

Ole' Timer
Ole' Timer

To all of the Mizzou fans, WDE>Bammer had too much moonshine tonight and will regret most of what he said. As someone who has lived in Missouri, I look forward to going back to the Show Me State for football, basketball, and baseball games.

JEH
JEH

John,

1)While it was an AP story today, it was ESPN's Doug Gottlieb that was tweeting this Big Ten gibberish almost immediately following MU presser last night.
2)Who is this source? The janitor at University Hall? No real sources at Mizzou are saying anything. Freaking out over secret sources seems silly.

TopekaJHawk
TopekaJHawk

A friend of mine told me to check this site out because MU fans are claiming a KU conspiracy to keep them from leaving the Big 12. I literally LOL'd on this one. On behalf of the Big 12, please join the SEC. No one cares about you MU. You will leave and we will invite TCU, Louisville and WVU to replace you. Maybe the SEC can tolerate a bunch of whinny crybabies, but the Big 12 has had enough of it.

WDE>Bammer
WDE>Bammer

Again, talk to me after the season. There is a reason this conference has won 5 straight national titles. It will be six this year after OU gets smoked down in New Orleans.

mizzou kp
mizzou kp

Just a little fact for you guys...........

NCAA Men's Football - Conference Rankings (2011-2012)

Only games against Division I opponents are counted.
Rankings update every 5 mins.
Last updated - Wed Oct 5 09:22:09 PDT 2011
Rank Conference (Teams) All Non-Conf Index Sos Sos Rk
1 Big 12 10 32-8 (80%) 27-3 (90%) 36.75 53.62 3
2 Southeastern 12 41-17 (71%) 28-4 (88%) 33.95 52.91 5
3 Big Ten 12 39-18 (68%) 34-13 (72%) 31.71 51.35 7
4 Atlantic Coast 12 36-20 (64%) 27-11 (71%) 29.85 53.62 2
5 Pacific-12 12 31-23 (57%) 19-11 (63%) 28.89 52.94 4
6 Big East 8 25-13 (66%) 23-11 (68%) 28.50 52.27 6
7 Mountain West 8 20-15 (57%) 18-13 (58%) 26.54 50.73 10
8 Independents 4 10-9 (53%) 10-9 (53%) 25.17 53.72 1
9 Conference USA 12 26-30 (46%) 18-22 (45%) 21.78 49.76 12

bigtiger
bigtiger

Latest rumor is that this "reporter" a stringer for AP used to work at the University of Missouri and was fired and that he "attended" the news conference on the phone while remaining in Columbia where he talked to a professor who preferred the CIC association with the Big 10.

If true, the use of the term Missouri "official" is suspect at best.

Also, if you haven't figured out that any dipwad with a telephone can report anything they want and attribute it to Missouri. Fact. We did not "flirt" with the Big 10 last year. Sunshine Law disclosures prove that. Fact. kansas and kansas state fans are butt hurt that we may have a better deal than them. Fact. Over 90% of Missouri fans want the SEC.

bpa_kc
bpa_kc

I am a life long Mizzou fan, and my feeling is that the majority of Mizzou fans are hell bent on moving south. The ones who want to stay in the Bevo 12 (9) are for the most part just afraid of competing in the meatgrinder that is SEC football. I've heard almost no one (since last year) expressing any desire for the B1G. Personally I had no desire to see Mizzou in the B1G last year when that looked like a viable option.

I'm getting really sick of these "anonymous sources". I'm also getting sick of the Kansas City media who've been bashing Mizzou non-stop ever since yesterday for "betraying" their fellow Bevo 12 (9) bretheren and flirting with the SEC... I know the city will take a $$ hit losing the Bevo 12 (9) basketball tourney ($14 million in revenue estimated per year)... but it is more than worth it to me in order for me to watch my favorite team compete in the best conference in the land... and know that they have a secure and stable home for the remainder of my lifetime...

bpa_kc
bpa_kc

That story was purposely worded in such a way to elicit the maximum negative response from SEC supporters possible... which means that it had to come from a dissenter intent on sabotaging a possible deal to move to the SEC. While there is no doubt "annonymous sources" within the MU administration that would strongly prefer the B1G, I have to think that they are the minority.

Jamie Thornton
Jamie Thornton

Please. I'm sick of the conspiracy theory stories. MIzzou has a culture with midwestern schools. Missouri is in the midwest. It's not in the south. It's no surprise it would want in the BIG. Sure, it would take the SEC over the Big 12. That's why you see SEC presidents holding out. THe SEC is strong because none of it's now 13 members want to be anywhere else. The Sec presidents are smart and know that. The sec is better than leftovers!

AllTideUp
AllTideUp

Even if any of that mess was in the slightest true it still wouldn't make sense. We just added A&M to our annual schedule and they'll be at least as competitive as Auburn is and they probably won't have to......ehhhh it's too easy.

Dave
Dave

Re: Slive's legacy and Mizzou - Not nearly as much as Cecil Newton, I think.

The Newton Saga set the league back 20 years in terms of public perception and largely unraveled all of the progress Slive had made on that front over the last decade. Certainly Tennessee contributed to it, but the entire episode was a complete embarrassment and turned what should have been a narrative about one of the most compelling athletes to play CFB in 20 years into a morass of absurd denials and hair-splitting semantics. Cecil/Auburn turned a Herschel Walker-Bo Jackson moment into something grotesque.

"Oh, you jealous Bammer...." Not a Bammer. Just amused at the number of Auburn fans who came out of the closet in the past 12 months. I'll say this about UT, Alabama, and Georgia fans - they wear their gear at 5-7 or 12-0.

Jamie Thornton
Jamie Thornton

I agree. FSU or VIrginia TECH. I believe we could get one of those two.

AllTideUp
AllTideUp

It would be totally out of character for some academic to try to hurt so many other people in order to help his own career or get back at those who offended him.

#sarcasm

GeoffDawg
GeoffDawg

I generally agree with you that we shouldn't put too much stock into the word of one lone anonymous source. Especially considering the outpouring of support from MU fans that I've been reading. I think the issue is that the SEC and its member schools are very invested in the notion that we're the predominant athletic conference in the nation and have a great deal of financial stability and longevity to show for it. With no exit fee, we're sensitive to the possibility that we could be seen as the red headed stepchild when all is said and done if Mizzou decides to up and bolt to the Big10 if and when they eventually expand.

Like I said, I think most SEC fans know to take it with a huge grain of salt but if this was some planned maneuver to sabotage Mizzou, the instigator knew just what buttons to push.

MIZ_SEC
MIZ_SEC

Let me add that the entire athletic department, the Mizzou Curators, the Missouri Governor, and the vast majority of Mizzou faculty is 100% on board with the SEC and can't wait to become a member. This has absolutely never been in doubt for the last month according to Mizzou insiders.

I really hope people are intelligent enough to not assume one anonymous quote as the consensus opinion of Mizzou. The university would not be in this position if it were in any way accurate.

GeoffDawg
GeoffDawg

You make a good point with #1. With a litigation averse conference, it helps to promote the notion that Mizzou has wanted out for awhile and was not poached by the SEC. The phrasing of it leaves a lot to be desired however.

jtreehorn
jtreehorn

Not arguing the SEC has not been the best conference in the BCS era.....most years they clearly earned it. Point is that there has been no MIami, FSU, ND, Nebraska to stand in the way. This will not last for ever. SEC teams are certainly the flavor of the month with recruits, but it could change.

Just saying, that as we move towards 16 teams, how can the SEC not look to add at least one national brand. ND is surely not happening and Texas does not seem interested. That leaves OU and FSU. Nothing against MIzzou, but they bring no excitement, and I just don't see how the money is better with them over FSU/OU. I say take the noles now and lock up at least one spot with a proven money maker.

OU vs FSU 9.3 overnight neilson
UF vs BAMa 5.1 overnight

Jamie Thornton
Jamie Thornton

I agree. and as far as new tv sets/markets, the SEC just got 3 big ones with Texas A&M. Houston, Dallas, San Antonio. To me the logical pick is FSU. MOre people will watch. As Paul Finebaum said today; Missouri can have 50 million people living there. If none of those 50 million people turn on the SEC games(because people in Missouri don't care and wont watch) then what's the point? You need people who will watch the tv sets. Not just have them.

Razorback
Razorback

"I think I will go cook some bacon in honor of this weekend's game." HILARIOUS. Hope it is free of swine flu.

Jamie Thornton
Jamie Thornton

I agree! John is just giving us all this info as he gets it. I don't think any of us wants to take a school that looks at us like leftovers. I've seen some legit sites cover this story. I don't believe it's made up at all. BUt I agree with John about not getting ugly with people. It's opinions. It just makes me wonder if they will take MIzzou after this. Almost everyone was happy with the Aggies. They wanted to come to the SEC. They had SEC ties. You don't see the same excitement level out of MIzzou. We're just all on board for the ride. Thanks John.

Tiger fan
Tiger fan

Thank you for a great site John.

I've never really been a conspiracy guy myself but the crassness of the wording attributed to the MU "source" was so over the top that I would seriously consider an axe being grinded. That said, I do agree that MU must do a better job on these leaks. Perhaps a statement to the tune of "other than Dr. Deaton or Mike Alden, no other source should be construed as credible when discussing Missouri's potential move from the Big XII". I live in Kansas City and with a single exception, I know of noone who is not excited at the prospect of being accepted into the SEC. I think we all realize we're getting into a much tougher league than the only one we've ever known (the Big 8 plus some Texas schools) but given the chance we'll fit in well with most - though the WDE Bammers may be a lost cause. I hope we get the opportunity to find out.

Jamie Thornton
Jamie Thornton

I agree John. There are SEC fans mad, like i've never seen mad. ON ESPN, cbs, or you name it message board. People are coming in droves to email mike slive and not have Mizzou come in over this. I understand and feel the sameway. If you want in another conference and not happy with your own; don't use us as your best leftover option. BUt to get personal and ugly, there in no need for it. ANd none of this is the Mizzou fans fault. None of it. If this is real, it came from someone at the UofM. If it is real, sorry. I hope they're not in the conference. John, we can both agree about one thing. None of the 13 members of this conference want to leave. They want to be here. If Mizzou doesn't feel that way, they need to go somewhere else. The SEC will be just fine. THanks for your great work John!

MIZ_SEC
MIZ_SEC

Thanks. Mizzou fans are excited to become members of the SEC and can't wait until this mess is behind us. It is crazy that one supposed "anonymous source" can completely turn something upside down like this.

Stevenbrew
Stevenbrew

Sounds like someone trying say they said it 1st(about the big10) if it happens

Stevenbrew
Stevenbrew

Wisconsin vs Alabama. Dont think Oklahoma will be there.

mizzou kp
mizzou kp

Might be so. Might not, we'll see.

WDE>Bammer
WDE>Bammer

1) You provide no link to your information.
2) Having a ranking list in midseason is rather dumb. The SEC will win the national title again this year and dominate the bowl games.

AllTideUp
AllTideUp

Considering that KC already lost the opportunity to host the Big 12 championship game I don't see why anyone there wouldn't think that with the Texas-centric leadership of the Big 12 that they probably wouldn't have had the basketball tourney much longer anyway.

AllTideUp
AllTideUp

I have no trouble thinking that this is some sort of minor conspiracy. If Baylor and Texas can collaborate to put out the Perryman report then certainly someone can find a professor or someone at Mizzou who has no power to make a decision and make it sound like someone important is dissing the SEC. And especially since the whole Perryman report was essentially a lie I have no doubt they and maybe others are willing to be dishonest in order to get something else they want.

Truthfully, if anyone with a brain at Mizzou who is in on the decision making process did genuinely think this about the SEC then they certainly wouldn't talk to a reporter about it. That's like a coach who is interviewing for a job at school "A" telling a reporter behind the scenes that he really wanted the job at school "B", but he's just going to have to settle or be unemployed. Not too many people are that stupid.

badgercat
badgercat

During tOSU's B1G run...there have been soundbites played on certain other SEC boards where the Buckeyes were called, "perhaps the best team in Big 10 history." That HYPE from ABC and ESPN propelled them to #1 rankings each year that they played Florida and LSU. There is absolutely NO WAY that tOSU should have been ranked ahead of SEC teams either year. It's a flaw in the system. tOSU had NO business being on the same field as the SEC champ either year.

As to the "flavor of the month" comment - how many decades to you think it's been since the SEC did NOT have more players on NFL rosters than any conference? The flavor of the month may be the pasted data after four weeks showing the Big XII is the top conference. That was perhaps weakest thing that's ever been shown to try and support another conference over the SEC. It was laughable!

How many years over the past 30 has any conference topped the SEC in draft picks? Good grief, you can count them on one hand - plus - the SEC has more years topping the NFL draft than all other conferences combines since the mid-80s. I'll honor John's request not to links sources, and simply direct you to Google USA Today's story "Pipeline to the NFL" and see why the numbers since 1988 illustrate plain and simply why they conclude that "the SEC is in a league of its own."

Lastly, check out Football Data Warehouse. If anyone has any question as to which conference has ruled college football across history - they slice and dice the data however you want to view it. There is a reason that we say the SEC is SECond to none.

Anyone that disputes it today - OR - over history - must be listening to stations in Texas, or the upper Midwest. Eventually, when they see the objective data - they realize it's a slaughter...

Scott Reid
Scott Reid

JTree,

I dispute your contention based on a couple TV by the Numbers articles.

FSU vs OU against no other primetime football games on the major networks (aka versus repeats of American Dad, Rules of Engagement, Criminal Minds, etc) - 8.56 million viewers

UF vs Ala against Neb vs Wisc on ABC = 7.65 million viewers. Btw the Neb-Wisc game managed to draw another 5.5 million viewers for itself.

So as good as FSU vs OU did, it was only a million more than viewers competing against dead air than the SEC did against what was hyped as the Big 10 Matchup of the Year.

That's the difference between conferences and ratings.

Jamie Thornton
Jamie Thornton

awesome. WHo doesn't love bacon? Speaking of Tigers; I hope the Hogs score a ton on some TIgers this weekend!

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