Report: Missouri Taking Steps Toward The SEC
October 17th, 2011 10:46 AM║ Posted By: John Pennington ║ Permalink
║ Schools: Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, LSU, Mississippi State, Ole Miss, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Tags: Mike Slive, SEC
The folks at PowerMizzou.com — the Rivals site covering Missouri — have reported this morning that “the ball will be rolling” regarding a Mizzou move to the SEC by the end of the week and that the move should be completed by the end of the month.
According to the site: “The basic thought is that the only way Missouri does NOT move to the SEC at this point is if the SEC pulls the rug out at the last minute.” Mike Slive isn’t the type of commissioner to do that. And he wouldn’t have allowed things to progress this far with Mizzou if he didn’t already know he had the votes to get them into the league.
Missouri’s board of curators will meet later this week.
Why would the SEC want Missouri when all Mizzou wants is an invite to the BIG10? They practically begged for an invite to the BIG10.
Because, according to Missouri leadership, "that's what' left" & the SEC is happy to give them a parking space until the B1G offers them an invite in a few years.
GA Tech and Tulane are the only schools to ever leave the SEC. How's that working out for them?
50/50. What's that got to do with the price of tea in China.
The point is why would any school leave the greatest athletic conference in the country unless they planned to discontinue a credible athletic program. GA Tech roamed the wilderness for years after leaving, Tulane has never recovered. Once Missouri is in, they are in for the duration.
WHAT DID YOU THINK WHEN ARKANSAS CAME TO SEC AND WHAT DO YOU THINK NOW COMPARE IT TO MIZZOU
When any confrence wants to add a school,and the main reason is TV sets,or population,this is not good for college football.....Lets say,just for an example,Notre Dame is in a very small TV market as WVa is....Would the SEC or any confrence want them ??? NO,they would not...But that would be wrong....You would want them because they have a great program for ALL the sports being played in college....Not just football.....In Mr Johnny Cochran own words"If it don`t fit,you must equit"...Rest in peace Mr Cochran.....I beleive Mizzu don`t fit in the SEC...There are a dozen other schools that do....
You wont find many SEC fans who are also Johnny Cochran fans, I have not heard his name mentioned on an SEC board ever. BTW, its aquit, not equit. Kansas grad?
All other conferences ARE the minor leagues.
Saddest day in SEC. Mizzou offers zero. They will be at BEST an OLE MISS, or a Vandy. why bring in a team for the sake of having one? this will be the most historic mistake of our conference. FIRE Mike Slive.
An area of the counties in central Missouri have been called "Little Dixie" since the Civil War. This includes the area of Columbia, home of our Tigers. Anyone who has ever visited St. Louis and the Bootheel and the Springfield-Branson area knows the Southern influences are extremely stong. You can even order grits at lotsa diners! Seriously, this Mississippi born and bred girl went to Mizzou and loved it. We live in the South, love the South, and love our Mizzou. We predict that we will be like Arkansas when they came to the SEC, we will adjust and get crazier, we promise!!
That's funny, I thought Missouri was the Bellwether state.
It is and its pointing South.
I'm in Arkansas and agree with your assessment of Missouri. Also agree with your prediction. Arkansas' stadium is about 44% larger now than when we came in. Missouri has a lot larger population to pull from, as well as a larger alumni base. I think they have the potential to regularly fill a 90,000 seat stadium within the next ten years. I don't know what your visiting team guarantee is, but comparing to the old SWC, Arkansas now has 6,000 to 8,000 more visitors per conference game. It's always good when someone else helps pay for your expansion.
You only get one rival to play every year in the other divisions so if Alabama and Auburn are east-west rivals, thats it for them. Then their former rivals, Tennessee and Georgia have to find new western rivals, A&M and Missouri in all likelyhood. Georgia would be extremely unhappy about giving up the rivalry with Auburn, the longest continous rivalry in the deep South. Let Missouri come to the east for a few years until 15 and 16 arrive, likely WVA and maybe VA Tech. Other schools that have been mentioned on the east coast are Maryland, NC State and Clemson although Clemson has been emphatic about not moving to the SEC. GA Tech and FSU would be blocked by UGA and UF. Lets go with Mizzou to get #14 and worry about the rest later.
Wife wants to know if Mizzou has womens gymnastics? She was on Alabamas team in 90's.
Yes they do and have done decent nationally.
I am confused here. If Auburn moves to the East doesn't Alabama and Auburn get to pick who their cross division rivalry game will be?? Can't Auburn pick Alabama and Bama pick Tennessee? Put Mizzou in the East for one or two years, when the SEC expand again pick your two schools out east. Move Mizzou back to the West everything is taking care of. Mizzou will pick from one of the two schools that are added to the east as it's East Division rival game.
"Indians Endeavor to Persevere"
1. There going to a 6-2-1 schedule meaning they'll play 6 divisional games 2 teams from the other side which they will play every year and with 1 rotating school every year. Alabama will still play Auburn and Tennesse every year. 2. They are not expanding to 16 teams any time soon. They didn't want to expand to 14 but A&M threw them into it expansion.
welcome too the sec. misourri,and a&m the best confrence in the coun try.
Appreciate it.
I'm a KC-based Mizzou fan. Rememver, we border Arkansas, aTennessee, and Kentucky. There's Southern influences in various parts of Missouri. I'm originally from the St. Louis area, and there are Southern influences there. SE Mo is particularly that way. I'm excited as the son of a South Carolina dad, and a mother from Western Virginia. As far as FB, We have won 40 games in the last 4 years. There are tentative plans of expanding the stadium to 80,000 capacity, and playing in the SEC can only enhance fan excitement, which has already greatly increased in the Pinkel era. Don't forget the St Louis, Kansas city, and Springfield-Branson markets, which can only enhance a future SEC Network!
Berle Grant Johnson, see, even a Southern name.
While the SEC welcomes Missouri, Kansas will still be the place you go when you click your heels together and have nightmares. So long Jayhawks!
I really thought the SEC had more leverage to go out there and get a Southeastern team.
Who knows at this point ncaafootballfan, maybe it will end up that way but any team that is happy where they are and their conference is stable I cant imagine a top notch football program wanting to leave to the SEC to make things tougher for themselves. Mizzou fits the situation perfectly at this time. Sorry haters but thats just the way it is.
I agree. Plus, GT, Clemson and FSU are apparently off limits since FA, FL and SC would block admission. No way the three Research Triangle schools will ever leave the ACC. That just leaves WVa and VT as alternatives to Mizzou. I agree Mizzou is better choice than WVa. Having said that, I'd prefer VT. But since VT isn't interested, that leaves us with MU which I feel is still a great choice. The school is rich in tradition and supports its athletics. BTW -- I am an independent observer here -- a life-long SEC fan who grew up in SEC country, but a grad of a non-SEC school (Emory '78).
VT may not be able to come out and say they are interested.....just send the invite....forget the ACC
Mizzu....1-2 and 3-3 overall record.....They would be lucky to Beat Kentucky,Miss St,and Old Miss...Forget about ALL the other SEC teams....Bottom feeders in the SEC....There better off in ConfUSA.....
Go to the East. Win immediately. Thank you.
The NIH has headquarters in the vicinity of Washington D.C. True. What does that have to do with the NIH funding athletic conferences? Your argument seems to be that administrators at the NIH gives grants to ACC schools preferentially based just on conference affiliation (ludicrous and would be illegal)? I'm sure the ACC schools on average DO get more research funding than the SEC schools on average. On average, they are better research universities (Duke, Ga. Tech, Maryland, UNCCH, Virginia, now Pitt), That has nothing to do with conference affiliation.
Actually the ACC and B1G both have academic consortiums of sorts built into the conference. They are the only 2 athletic conferences with any academic tie in. So yes in essences the NIH could give a grant to an ACC school because of the conference that school is in. Why not give a grant to Duke Med that involves something robotic when you know they can call GT and VT to discuss robotics, and get the full assistance of that faculty and its resources without having to jump through any additional hoops.
This is a major reason why the ACC schools aren't going anywhere. The SEC right now has a total of 4 schools, 5 when MO joins, that are decent academic institutions, UF, UGA, VANDY, A&M, and MO one day. The rest of the league still leaves a lot to be desired when speaking of research and academics.
Virginia Tech is at about the same level as most SEC schools when it comes to academics. I really wish all the elitists at least based their opinions on facts rather than hearsay and preconceived notions.
Really? VT undergarduate engineering programs and acrchitecture programs are miles ahead of 90% of the SEC. ITs graduate programs are some of the best in the nation. On the liberal arts side it leaves a lot to be desired but its first and foremost a POLYTECHNIC Institute.
If VT joined the SEC today it would be the 4th best ranked Academic school by USNews. With A&M its the 5th. The ACC has no school in the rankings that falls below tier 1 in the old system. The SEC has 2 and half the conference is ranked lower than the top 100 with bama a barely sliding above it at 98.
The ACC on the other hand except one are ranked in the top 100 (FSU is 102), and VT falls in at 10th in the conference. When looking at individual programs Tech's engineering school would be the top in the SEC, and its architecture program would also be within the top 2. From a liberal stand point it is probably on bar with the upper 5 of the conference (FL, UGA, VANDY, and the Alabamas)
There are your facts.
Grew up in the South, so this MU Tiger fan is definitely looking forward to the move. Joining the best football conference in America is a great thing for us. Getting away from the dysfunctional Big 12 should help us in all sorts of ways. We know it will be a challenge athletically, but our coaching staffs have really embraced the idea of the SEC. Look forward to some great trips to see some great SEC schools. And we look forward to welcoming you to Columbia soon. BTW, we are already planning to expand the stadium.
John, if it happens in the next week to or so, do you feel that this would be for the 2012 season? Big 12 has been very vocal that Mizzou would not be allowed to leave until 2013.
Old Sarge...
I'm pretty sure that's just posturing. The Big 12 wants to give the appearance that a 2012 departure -- a full month after A&M's departure! -- would be devastating to the league. If Missouri leaves, the Big 12 wants to drive up their exit fee.
I could be wrong, of course, but I've not talked to a soul in the SEC who thinks Mizzou would be stuck in the Big 12 til 2013.
We'll see.
Thanks for reading,
John
SEC should rescind the offer and not take on a team who brings nothing to the league. Maybe that is what they want just another Mississippi or Mississippi state or south carolina to beat up on. On the other hand, WVU brings a great deal more the table including the Penn. recruiting grounds. SEC should really invite WVU instead.
This from a MU newspaper regarding their Homecoming crowd this past weekend. Dave Matter of the Columbia Daily Tribune.
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Great crowd, great weather and great atmosphere around downtown, campus and the stadium Saturday. Columbia can make for a heck of a game-day atmosphere when all those forces align. The crowd was late arriving and early to leave, but credit to MU fans for packing the house on a day when the opponent was blah and the home team was coming off a two-game losing streak. Considering only three opponents have drawn crowds of 70,000-plus at Memorial Stadium during the Gary Pinkel era — Nebraska, Oklahoma and Texas — the scene Saturday made a statement about the program and the fan base.
Also, MU officials expect another sellout this Saturday when No. 6 Oklahoma State visits for an 11 a.m. kickoff. Another massive game for this program.
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I don't see the fan support for when they are not good in the SEC. South Carolina and Arkansas have true SEC fan passion and even in bad years, they show up. The article says it, MU fans come for some big games and that is about it.
Remember, the SEC is their back up choice
Mizzou has great fan support. Especially when you consider they still draw these crowds after fielding such bad teams from about 1970-2004. You clearly know little about the program and certainly have never been to Columbia for a game.
It was a bitch slapping of Little Sisters of the Poor er i mean Iowa State. Even a car accident gets boring after a while.
Mizzou is on the hook for 2012 in the Big XII. If the SEC wants to be at 14 teams and have Mizzou in for 2012, that means someone is going to have to take Mizzou's place in the Big XII.
I'm sure the SEC will get Mizzou (more tv sets) for 2012 and the Big XII will get WVU (ranked f-ball program) for 2012.
Why dilute a great product like SEC Football...yes I am a Hokie, but was raised on SEC Football and a team and fan base like Mizzou is like one from another planet...bet y'all can't wait for the Bama-Mizzou game! Yippee
Mizzou grad living in ACC/Big East country. The Hokies have made a name beating up on inferior ACC teams. Everytime they play a real team out of conference they get it handed to them. I saw Boise St. manhandle them, and it appeared that they quit. They soften the schedule this year, but if they get to a decent bowl they will be exposed. Stay in the ACC to keep your rep!!
Besides Oklahoma who do you play? Oh and who do you beat? Thats right don't give me the exposed stuff.....you are about to learn how good you had it losing to Kansas and Iowa.....you will get abused in the SEC.
Mizzou is on the hook for 2012 in the Big XII. If the SEC wants to be at 14 teams and have Mizzou in for 2012, that means someone is going to have to take Mizzou's place in the Big XII.
The only team that can take Mizzou's place in the Big XII for 2012 is BYU. If the Big XII invites BYU, then Mizzou can ask for a waiver to be allowed to leave the conference and join the SEC for the 2012 season.
Basically it's in Mizzou's and the SEC's best interests for BYU to be invited to the Big XII.
They are absolutely not on the hook for 2012. They will face exit penalties, which will probably be negotiated to an amount synonymous with A&M's penalties, as long as they announce their exit before December. I know you want to lobby for your team, but stating your opinion as fact is a dangerous thing to do!
You need to get yourself a cup of coffee, perk up, and get on your game! Oh, wait, sorry... awkward...
Didn't you already post this? It's still wrong.
Interesting hearing the anti-Mizzou post. As I recall when Arkansas & S.Carolina entered the SEC neither were coming off very strong periods in their football history. After adjusting to the SEC and the intensity w/ the league both programs are contributing. South Carolina appears to be benefiting from the East's slide. Mizzou has a great foundation, & other than your two top teams(LSU & Bama) Mizzou can compete w/ any teams in your conference. We will be a fine addition to a great league.
"South Carolina appears to be benefiting fron the East's slide"
Thats hitting the nail on head. If they somehow by default get back to the championship game, it will be another blowout.
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