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Missouri Still Working On An Exit Visa; Could Today Be The Day?

Though it may be through no fault of its own, Missouri doesn’t seem to be making any friends in the SEC.  The Tigers are at the center of a heap of fan questions from Gainesville to Fayetteville.  And from Lexington to Baton Rouge, most SEC supporters just want some form of closure.

But while the deal between MU and the SEC appears to be done, no official announcement has been made yet.

Some backstory…

We were told two weeks ago that MU-to-the-SEC would be announced by the end of last week.  Soon after we posted that news, numerous other reporters got similar word from their sources.  Outlets from Kansas City to Texas to the SEC said that they expected an announcement last week.

But then word leaked out that the Big 12 was putting up more of a fight than expected over potential broken television contracts.  The Big 12 also had to deal with an internal battle over whether to invite West Virginia or Louisville to enter its ranks.

In a bizarre twist, the SEC and XOS Digital accidentally showed their cards by briefly posting a number of pages on SECSports.com dealing with the “announcement” of Mizzou’s entry into the league for the 2012 season.  How that impacted the negotiations between MU and the Big 12 no one knows.

On Friday, the Big 12 officially invited WVU and in its press release it said the Mountaineers would join the conference next summer.  Left off the 10-team league roster entirely?  Missouri.

Between the SEC web leak and the Big 12′s flat-out statement that Mizzou was leaving, it’s pretty clear that a handshake agreement exists between the school and the conference.  It appears that the guessing is over.  (Though Big East commissioner John Marinatto could muck up the works by fighting to hold WVU to a 2014 exit.)

Except for that bit about an official announcement.

On Friday, PowerMizzou.com — the Rivals site covering Missouri — reported that MU and the Big 12 were hammering out the school’s exit deal.  That work apparently isn’t finished.

Knowing that MU followed Texas A&M’s plan for granting its top administrator the power to look around and then the power to cut a deal (right down to the day), we pointed out yesterday that A&M’s move was announced on a Sunday with a celebration coming the following Monday.  So could that mean…

Nope.  No announcement came Sunday either.  And with Missouri chancellor Brady Deaton heading to India for about nine days tomorrow (story updated below), it seems imperative that his school and Mike Slive’s conference make an announcement today.  (The SEC’s dummy web pages referred to a Monday decision, too.)

Incredibly, there’s some sentiment that MU won’t announce today because it won’t want to show-up the Kansas City Chiefs’ Monday Night Football appearance and further alienate the people in that metro area.  This after previous suggestions that MU would hold up its announcement so as not to trump the World Series, the St. Louis Cardinals’ championship, last night’s exhibition Tiger basketball game and fundraiser for tornado-stricken Joplin, etc.

No one’s had this much trouble getting an exit visa since Victor Laszlo and Ilsa Lund fought to escape Casablanca.  A tip to MU chancellor Deaton: Just bypass Senor Ferrari at The Blue Parrot and head straight over to Rick’s Place.  That’s where you’ll find the letters of transit.

So will today be the day?  Maybe, maybe not.  On Friday, we were told by an SEC official that his/her boss — an SEC president — expected a vote on Missouri to be held on Sunday.  To our knowledge — as of yet — that hasn’t happened.  In other words, it’s beginning to look like top officials around the conference don’t know what’s happening with the Missouri-Big 12 negotiations, either.

So we’ll not hold our breath.

There’s no telling what’s going on in Columbia, Dallas and Birmingham.  But the longer this drags out, the more SEC fans will assign blame to Missouri.  As you’ve probably witnessed on talk radio shows and internet messageboards, many league fans aren’t excited about adding the Tigers.  At best there’s a lukewarm, “okay, whatever Slive says” feel to their entry.

The longer this drags out — whether it’s Missouri delaying matters or not — the bigger the PR job Slive and company will have to do to convince SEC fans that MU wanted the SEC and that the school fits in the SEC.

Some headlines regarding Missouri…

1.  Martin Manley of The Kansas City Star (just can’t wait for Tiger fans to fill our comment boxes with reports that Manley is a Kansas man) says that he believes an announcement will come today.  He also says that from a football perspective, the Big 12 won’t miss “A&Who and Mizzou.”  Yep, sounds like an objective journalist.

2.  Missouri Governor Jay Nixon — who insulted some Big 12 institutions last year when he said MU would be better off in the more academically-respected Big Ten — refused to comment on the SEC situation last night.  “I just think anything else I say at this point… I’ll let others… I might be too quotable.  I’m a fan.  I don’t run the athletic department.”

3.  Over the weekend, Missouri AD Mike Alden was asked about his school’s timeline.  “You guys are asking me a question I don’t know the answer to.”

4.  Orangebloods.com — the Rivals site covering Texas — reported early this morning (behind a paywall) that Missouri “is still gone,” but “still awaiting the exit fee number.”  The exit fee is believed to be between $26-30 million.  That charge would be negotiated down, and that appears to be the current hangup.

5.  While Big 12 interim commish Chuck Neinas says his league is finished with expansion and will stand at 10 teams next fall (WVU in, Mizzou out), Berry Tramel of The Oklahoman reported yesterday that a Big 12 source told him the league still might invite Louisville and go to 11 for next season.  (Which would mean 12, if Missouri unexpectedly changed its mind.)  You know what this sounds like, of course?  Texas wants 10 schools and Oklahoma wants 11.  It was OU president David Boren that was convinced by old Congressional pal Mitch McConnell that U of L would be better for the Big 12 than West Virginia.  That league should be named the San Andreas Conference because it’s built on an enormous fault line that’s destined to give way at some point.

UPDATE — This morning, The Associated Press reported that MU chancellor Brady Deaton has cancelled his speaking engagement in India to stay at home and continue work on the school’s conference affiliation mess.  An MU spokesperson said “the chancellor won’t go so he can deal with other duties in his office that are more important.”  Take that symposium on radiopharmaceuticals.

 


86 comments
Big 12 Honk
Big 12 Honk

I really think the Big 12 should go the route of adding Cincinnati and Louisville to their conference and then look at possibly going to 14 teams if they could add BYU & Notre Dame. At the end of the day, I think the Big 12 should've taken Louisville instead of West Virginia then pushed for Mizzou to stay and somehow convinced Notre Dame to join the Big 12 in all sports.

Dave
Dave

I came here to see if Missouri was going to the SEC. Is Missouri rotting on the vine?

Alan
Alan

The Big 12 could take WV, Louisville and Cin and just finish off the Big East.That would end all this for the present and shore up the Big 12. Unfortunately TX has no desire for a stable Big 12.

Jamie Thornton
Jamie Thornton

Is today the day? no. Was anyday this past week the day? no. Will Tuesday be the day? no.

Matt
Matt

@Frank, they're trying to but the Big 12 isnt letting them leave. They have had thier minds made up for a long time that they want to go to the sec but its not like they can just sign some sort of contract and leave, there is too much money at stake that the Big 12 dont want to lose.

Steven
Steven

I don't think anyone should be blaming WVU it is just stating that one of the reasons the Big 12 is playing hardball is that the Big East may not let WVU out for the 2012 season. Mizzou wants out for the 2012 season but the Big 12 has shown reluctance to let us out before 2013 unless WVU can get in next year. The Big 12 could fix it easily if they would just decide to go to 12 schools and invite a school that can come in next year and let WVU get there when they can. But Texas wants 10 so my bet is it stays at 10.

Believe me as an MU fan I feel sorry for WVU going to that conference and wish them all the luck in the world. I hope that the Big 12 figures it out and works better for WVU and TCU because they don't deserve the dysfunction of what the Big 12 has been. Notice how they invited WVU, then they didn't WVU, and then did invite them again.

Julius
Julius

I don't have a problem with blaming the B12, but for some Missouri fans to blame WVU or the Big East is beyond my comprehension. WV was waiting for Missouri to decide if they would go to the SEC or not. If there's any truth to what these Missouri fans are saying, then Mizzou was waiting for a school to come join the Big 12 & save their A$$ from Big Twelve contract penalties before they'd jump ship to the SEC.

And for the record, WVU announced they would be going to the Big Twelve next year & did file a lawsuit against the Big East so that they could do so.

Tiger fan
Tiger fan

For a school they're saying they don't mind seeing go out the door, the Big 12 is acting in a way that belies their statements.

We're coming as fast as we can SEC - just not as fast as we'd have liked.

Also read today that two of the three chancellors who are negotiating exit fees for the Big 12 are Baylor's Ken Starr and ku's Bernadette Gray-Little. Neat trick of the Big 12 to include the two schools who've demonstrated more butt-hurt than any of the others.

Mizzou.Mark
Mizzou.Mark

Don't blame MU blame the freaking B12, WE want to LEAVE, remember when the B12 wouldn't let the TAMU aggies go anywhere and was trying to hold onto them for as long as possible, and Baylor was threatening to sue?... Divorcing the B12 is always a messy affair, especially when two huge TV markets are threatening to walk and cost you loads of money on your next TV contract negotiation.

matt
matt

i cant wait for mizzou to be in the sec

AU4life
AU4life

My buddy (Auburn 2002 grad) works as an assistant in the big 12 offices here in dallas and he said the sticking point is that the big 12 WILL NOT negotiate down the exit fees with mizzou. He thinks it's around $30 mill.

Matt
Matt

Welcome to the screwed up world that is the big 12 and the reasons why we are trying to get the heck outta this conference. I for one as a lifelong Mizzou fan cannot wait til the announcement is made and we are in the SEC! Texas has been a pain in the ass since this conference came to be. I am looking forward to being in a real conference without the backroom bickering and secret deals, I hope all will give MU a chance to prove they belong and will be a good member!

kfhonline
kfhonline

I would still prefer that Missouri be put in the West and move Auburn to the East. SEC should go to 9 conference games.

I think you could move Auburn to the East and have the 7 -1 - 2 rotations (one permanent and two rotating each year). One of the reasons not to move Auburn to the EAST is to save the annual AL TN game. But...what about giving an exception to the AL TN game?

There is always an exception to every rule!!!

The exception to the rule would be that Alabama plays two permanent teams from the East each year, AU and TN (and only rotates one team). Everyone else would play one permanent team from the other division like they do now and rotate two. (Maybe Auburn would have two permanent members from the West.) Anyway....this would not be as big of a deal as most people are making it out to be.

By the way...I am still pulling for ECU at some time to join the SEC if they go to 16. And...War Eagle!!!

StevenBrew
StevenBrew

Manley is obviously the shockjock type and seems to be anti Mizzou. If it wasn't for Mizzou I would have never heard of the guy. So send a thank you to Columbia, MO mr. manley, otherwise you are unknown.

Bruce
Bruce

I can not WAIT until the announcement is made, and it becomes OFFICIAL......
Looking forward to having Mizzou and A&M in The SEC Conference.....

LNB in the Bootheel
LNB in the Bootheel

Word from inside in Columbia is that Mizzou will make announcement today, but if it is a day later that won't really change anything. I live in Missouri but I live closer to 3 SEC schools than I do Columbia, so Zane in Georgia, SEC is my first choice. Get an atlas out, do they teach geography at Georgia? They do at Mizzou, so screw you! (New rivalry?)

Circus Is In Town
Circus Is In Town

Welcome to the stumbling and bumbling world that is synonymous with Mizzou.

Jackalope
Jackalope

So how do you think this will affect the SEC East/West alignment? Moving Auburn to the east puts the Iron Bowl at risk. Would MO be an east member even though it's further west than all but Arkansas?

MIZ_SEC
MIZ_SEC

The reality is that the Big East and the Big 12's TV contract is holding all of this up.

The Big 12's Fox deal is void if the league has less than ten members. West Virginia wants to take Mizzou's spot as the tenth member, but the Big East is refusing to negotiate at all on the 27 month notice, which is indirectly causing the delay in Mizzou's announcement. If Mizzou leaving made the Big 12 lose its TV deal, they could be liable for millions in lost revenue to other Big 12 schools.

This is the hold-up and unfortunately we have to keep waiting to let the lawyers work it all out.

Zane in Georgia
Zane in Georgia

I think the SEC needs to forget this Missouri debacle. They've shown they don't really want to be in the SEC, their first love is the Big 10. Besides, the only thing they bring to an athletic conference is alleged academics. I say bring in a school with a real athletic program that actually has the SEC AS THEIR FIRST CHOICE. In short SCREW MIZZOU!

Ron
Ron

"Notice how they invited WVU, then they didn't ......"

The SEC did a similar thing with a website blunder to Missouri.

Brad
Brad

I blame "they invited, then they didn't" on Senator Mitch McConnell from Kentucky more than on the Big 12. If he wouldn't have injected his political power into the process that would not have happened.

BRUCE
BRUCE

I can not wait either !!

Rodrigez
Rodrigez

If this is the case, what is Missouri going to do? Back out or take their lumps & jump ship?

BRUCE
BRUCE

I do not think much of The Little 12 anymore......I hope they EXPLODE, they ALL deserve it !!!!......minus the Kansas Schools and Iowa State......as far as I know, they have done nothing........

8key

GeoffDawg
GeoffDawg

They can't have it both ways. They can't hold Mizzou's feet to the fire on exit fees while at the same time extolling the virtues of WVU. You undermine your own argument that the Big XII is irreparably injured by their departure. If the SEC wasn’t so litigation averse, I’d say just leave and settle it in court.

Bubba Gump
Bubba Gump

If this is true, hope you are going to offer him employment after he gets canned for leaking info on a public board!

johnmrsec
johnmrsec

Jackalope...

We reported a few weeks back that the SEC wants the alignment to cause as few problems as possible. That's putting Missouri in the East and keeping all of the SEC's current rivalries alive and well.

After writing that, we heard from multiple sources at multiple SEC schools that Mizzou to the East was/is the plan.

Thanks for reading,
JOhn

Steven
Steven

Missouri already said it will go to the East so a snot to affect any rivalries.

kfhonline
kfhonline

I do not see a risk to the Iron Bowl. An exception could be made that Bama plays two permanent teams from the East each year. There is always an exception to the rule!

Alex
Alex

Don't blame it on the Big East or WVU. The school and Big 12 both announced that WVU will play in that conference next year. That's WVU's and the Big East's problems. It's obvious that WVU has enough money to throw at the Big East to get out of its 27 month contract.

Missouri simply needs to grow some gonads and make their own announcement.

MIZSEC
MIZSEC

One word, LAWYERS. This slowness has nothing to do with eagerness of Missouri.

Mike
Mike

Hey Zane...check the records; Mizzou has kicked the SEC's ass in football 18-7-1. SEC psychosis

mitchs3
mitchs3

For the umpteenth time, the B1G is NOT Mizzou's first choice. One anonymous source with a clear agenda leaks a "story" that is clearly meant to inflame passions to derail the MU to SEC move. Don't take the bait. Last year the B1G had announced that it was looking to expand (which the SEC had not). Missouri was interested, primarily behind the scenes and among some alumni, and the Governor - not MU officials - ran his mouth a bit too much, and the internet perception becomes that MU was chasing B1G like a streetwalker. The SEC is the better conference, better option; the only thing the B1G has that the SEC doesn't is the CIC research consortium money. MU is not chasing the B1G. Period.

MU wants the SEC, and is looking forward to becoming a good citizen of the league. Hostage to the TV negotiations.

johnmrsec
johnmrsec

Zane in Georgia...

You prove our point that Missouri will be viewed as not picking the SEC... even though it's likely the Big 12 making things tough on them financially that's holding the deal up.

Thanks for reading,
John

Steven
Steven

Believe me Geoff the Big 12 tries to have it both ways all the time. Another case in point is it was only a month ago or so the Mr. David Boren of OU said "Were' working towards a move to the Pac 12 and it is our objective now. They were taking OSU, TT and Texas with them until the Pac 12 turned them down. Since they were turned down it's all about how strong and stable the Big 12 is and yet they can't get Texas to go back to 12 teams because it would mean less revenue and can't get Texas to sign a Grant of TV rights for more than 6 years. When teams dare to leave or try to leave they dress them down in public and call them traitors, while offering a Big 12 Network and Games vs Notre Dame every year in football. On the Big 12 Network idea OU's AD said. "Where did that come from? Texas has the LHN and we're working on our own network how do manage that?"

secSoutheastern
secSoutheastern

Missouri should have known this all along. If the SEC chose Missouri over WVU because of more television sets, then the Big Twelve has a valid argument that they are still damaged financially because WVU has less television sets than Missouri does.

MIZ_SEC
MIZ_SEC

There have been multiple reports since Friday's announcement that the Big East will not allow WVU to leave early, putting their ability to go to the Big 12 in 2012 in doubt. Mizzou and the SEC do not want to look stupid so they won't announce until the Big 12/Big East/WVU situation is finalized.

This isn't very hard to understand, and it has nothing to do with "gonads".

Bubba Gump
Bubba Gump

mitches3,

The "one source" is one person in the present. I can assure that in the past MU has held the B1G as a destination and not the SEC. This goes back decades and generations. While you wishing this was not the past, does not change the past. When the SWC collapsed and Arkansas + South Carolina = SEC 12 there were 6 schools on the list, and Missouri was not one of them. Read the recent Roy Kramer interview through the long term eyes of an SEC follower. While he is being diplomatic, he is also giving strong clues to the historic relationship of Missouri and the SEC. Folks can spin this all day long, but some old Dawgs know the new "tricks" going on right now. This is a merger of convenience and money that may work in the long term. Saying this has been a desire of the Missouri folks for quite some time is pure yarn spinning.

Josh
Josh

I'm sick & tired of hearing that the Big 12 is keeping Missouri from announcing something. The B12 didn't stop Texas A&M from announcing. The Big East didn't stop WVU from announcing.

Steven
Steven

That's what they did at the meeting on Monday last week after Mr. Deaton told them MU was gone. Thus the reason after the meeting when asked about thoughts on Big 12 Mr. Deaton answered, They're doing some things that are right for the Big 12 and I wish them Luck and all. That statement right there was thanks guys but no thanks..

StevenBrew
StevenBrew

Oh, so your the one who has been holding this thing up. Once we find those numbers for ya can we settle this Mr Slive?

buddha22
buddha22

Zane - I suspect you are just ignorant of the market. MO is overwhelmingly MU and so is KC, MO. Yes, there are kU grads living in the closest large city to kU (KC) but there are also more MU grads and residents.

Bubba Gump
Bubba Gump

MIZ_SEC,

No, it is not what I wanted to hear! I know MU has fans, and I know folks in MO follow other teams. What I really would like is an OBJECTIVE breakdown how those 6 million people watch TV inside the state of Missouri? This allows me to objectively evaluate what their true value to the SEC is. Call me old fashioned for asking questions and kicking the tires before buying a car instead of relying on what the car salesman tells me. The salesman has a vested interest in selling the car, but I am actually going to have to drive it.

Steven
Steven

You're taking the word of a conference that invited WVU, turned around and uninvited them and finally invited them again. Just because the Big dysfunctional group known as the Big 12 says WVU is going to play next year in the Big 12 doesn't mean anything. After they announced that and the Big East said not so fast they started questioning again if WVU can play next year in the Big 12.

Also remember what they say publicly isn't whats being said privately. Last week they said MU didn't say they were leaving. If that's so then why was the Big 12 negotiating with Missouri on what it would take to get their release at the same time they made that statement? It's no different than when Texas A&M said they wanted to leave. even after all the threats and knowing that A&M was gone the day Chuck Nienas was brought in he said Texas A&M is still in the Big 12 and we can get them to stay. A day later or so Texas A&M left.

Zane in Georgia
Zane in Georgia

The SEC only wants Mizzou for the "Academics". It's well known their athletic record is pathetic and their TV draw is minimal; though ostenibly the SEC could sell the St Louis Market in any TV deal with MU in conference. I have a hard time buying the KC market would come with MU.

MIZ_SEC
MIZ_SEC

No, none of the six million were watching. They were all watching pro baseball and Big Ten football instead.

That's what you were wanting to hear, right?

Bubba Gump
Bubba Gump

were those 6 million watching in the first place?

I have yet to see where MU ranked is in the rankings of the 120 FBS schools? We already know where WVU ranks, and where UL ranks, but not a peep from the MU folks. Maybe some MU journalism grad can research that number for the rest of us. Not like Deloss Dodds or Chip Brown are the greatest sources, but in this case it would provide substance to their statements that WVU > MU as a conference partner.

mitchs3
mitchs3

Read the posts. B12 has to have 10 or its Fox TV contract is arguably void. If WVU cannot begin play in 2012, then the B12 is in trouble, and would likely do whatever it took (read: litigation) to keep MU in the league for 2012. It's not that the BE is going to send a 'hit man' to keep WVU, they'll send $750/hour New York lawyers with a document titled "Injunction" to keep them.

That said, I hope that the BE comes to their senses and negotiates not only with WVU for a 2012 exit but also Pitt and Cuse. Lame duck seasons are to no one's benefit, and at least the B12 got that right with Nebraska and Colorado last year. However, there is a good Sports Biz piece from Kristi Dosh that explains how much cash the BE stands to lose, and why they'll fight early exits.

MIZ_SEC
MIZ_SEC

It is the reality of the situation when 1) the Fox contract technically voids with less than ten teams, and 2) the total contract value could decrease meaningfully if a top team cannot replace Missouri and its population of six million that will no longer watch Big 12 football.

MIZ_SEC
MIZ_SEC

Yes they made the announcement on Friday, and then realized John Marinatto and the Big East were going to play hardball. It's obvious you haven't been paying attention to the situation since Friday's announcement, because there have been numerous articles in Big East and Big 12 country acknowledging that the Big 12 may have spoken too soon and could end up with egg on its face. The SEC and Mizzou are not going to risk that and will wait until the Big 12 and Big East buffoons finally work it out to a level that is satisfactory for the SEC.

Mizzou has worked for months to get into the SEC and the decision is final on both sides. To act like they have done all of the work and due diligence to get to this point but are too scared or timid to actually announce it is naive at best, moronic at worst.

secfan
secfan

Do you realize how a$$backwards that sounds? Your waiting on another team to finalize taking your spot before you'll announce you're leaving your conference?

Alex
Alex

The Big East commissioner always tells teams that they must stick to their exit fee and the 27 month waiting period. WVU's announcement that they would not simply implies that they will be paying more to leave & West Virginia's lawyers will work that out. "The school and Big 12 both announced that WVU will play in that conference next year." That's all you need to read. WVU officially announced it will play in the B12 next year and they will pay extra to do so. The Big East isn't going to physically send a hit man to stop them.

Missouri's lack of an official announcements is a reflection on Missouri. Don't try to blame WVU or the Big East.

Bocat
Bocat

Bubba, John, or anyone who may know... who were the six schools the SEC considered back in 1991, when they ultimately ended up taking S. Carolina and Arkansas? Just curious. Thanks!

Steven
Steven

I can't say it's been there for a long time because no one I know of ever thought the SEC would have an interest in Mizzou. I know most of the people I know wanted nothing to do with the Big 10 rumors last year but were very excited about the SEC. The grou that wants the BIG is a bunch of intellectual snobs and don't speak for the university itself. The only ammunition anyone has from last years supposed desire for the BIG is the words of the Missouri Governor and he's an idiot. Notice he's been muzzled this year and even said he doesn't speak for the university.

Jay Nixons from last-night when asked about realignment.. " “I just think anything else I say at this point… I’ll let others… I might be too quotable. I’m a fan. I don’t run the athletic department.”

Steven
Steven

Meant $1.9 billion dollar problem as the Big 12/Fox agreement is for 10 teams and $1.9 billion dollars over 13 years.

Steven
Steven

It's taken less than a month and you call That holding it up forever? It was less than 2 weeks ago that Alabama and some others were refusing to agree unless their rivalries were preserved. Since MU said they would go to the east and that was settled the Big 12 has known MU's intentions and that is to leave for the SEC.

It's not the Big Easts fault it is dealing with contracts. If the Big East holds WVU to the 27 month waiting time before that presents a $1.9 million dollar problem. According to the contract signed with Fox it requires them to have 10 members and if MU leaves this year and WVU can't join for next year that gives them just 9 schools and Fox can void the contract. The Big 12 is holding that over Mizzou's head and threatening lawsuits. If Fox voids that contract it would be likely that the Big 12 would go after Mizzou to recover money lost so there are a lot of loose ends to be tied up.

secfan
secfan

The reality of the situation is that WVU was waiting on Missouri to make their intentions known so that WV would either land in the SEC or the Big 12. Missouri was holding things up forever.

So now folks are trying to turn the tables & blame WVU & the Big East? Ridiculous.

mitchs3
mitchs3

As to Josh's comment, I suspect it is not the B12 that is keeping MU from announcing, but the SEC. SEC doesn't want to announce the move, create 14 team schedules, and then have the BE get an injunction keeping WVU from moving, and then the B12 sue Mizzou to keep them in the B12 in order to maintain 10 teams to be compliant with the TV contract.

MIZ_SEC
MIZ_SEC

TCU was in place to replace A&M, but don't let facts get in the way of a good rant.

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