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MU Chancellor Deaton: “I Wish Them (The Big 12) The Best”

KOMU-TV in Columbia, Missouri caught MU chancellor Brady Deaton at the airport as he returned from today’s Big 12 board of directors meeting in Dallas.  His take on today’s meeting: “I wish them (the Big 12) the best and all that, so we’ll see where that goes.”

That hardly sounds like a man who’s getting cold feet regarding an exit from Missouri’s current conference.  Again, Deaton was given the power by MU’s board of curators to examine all the school’s options just about three weeks ago.  He did his research.  He reported back on Friday.  That day the board gave him the power to go forth and cut a deal with a new league, admitting that MU and the SEC have exchanged info.  Oh, and the board also said it would like to keep playing basketball and football in Kansas City, you know, in case the school bolts the Big 12.

Rumors came from Missouri sources today that the Big 12 board of directors meeting in Dallas could be the scene of Deaton’s grand “we’re outta here” announcement.  But we at MrSEC.com reported in the middle of last week that MU’s move to the SEC would be sewn up by the middle to late part of this week.

In other words, there’s no need to panic.  Cutting a deal actually takes some time.  And it’s possible that the SEC has been just as much behind this apparent holdup as Mizzou has been.  Even though it is fans and media who are screaming that there’s a holdup.  Deaton says there is none:

“There’s no delays here at all.  There’s some very specific things that have to be addressed.  We want to address those.  We really can’t rush these things.  These are things you can’t rush.  I know fans get impatient.  I gotta say I’m very sympathetic.  What I hope they will understand is that this is not a set of issues that one can just press a button and be done with it.  There are some issues that have to be addressed on behalf of the University of Missouri and that’s what we’re doing, looking out for the University of Missouri.”

Asked if the SEC had assured Mizzou that it has the votes it needs for acceptance, Deaton cut to the chase: “I’ll let them speak for themselves, we’re reasonably clear about where we stand.”  In other words, MU knows it has the votes, but a few more t’s need to be crossed and i’s dotted.

While Mike DeArmond of The Kansas City Star continues to say Missouri “remain in public limbo,” we continue to say that this deal is nearing its completion.  No one we’ve spoken to tonight — and that includes persons in two Southeastern Conference athletic departments — gave us any reason to believe things have changed with regards to Missouri.

The folks at Orangebloods.com — the Rivals site covering Texas — claim that they have heard from one source with knowledge of today’s Big 12 meeting who said: “They (MU) are dragging out the inevitable adios.  And the Big 12 continues to be good partners (by not putting a deadline on the school).”

The site also states: “Big 12 administrators say they’ll be surprised if Missouri doesn’t announce fairly soon that it plans to withdraw from the Big 12 and apply for membership in the Southeastern Conference.”

As we always, always, always say — anything is possible when money and politics are involved.

But a reversal on the part of MU at this point would lead to a fan revolt.  Tiger-backers are already frustrated and tired from a process that’s lasted — officially — for less than a month.  At this point, if Deaton were to announce that MU was staying in the Big 12, he’d likely be burned in effigy.

Sidenote — It’s possible that Mike Slive — a commissioner who has worked very hard not to create the impression that he’s a league-raider like John Swofford, Jim Delany and Larry Scott — might not want this weekend’s Missouri-Texas A&M game to be viewed and publicized as an SEC preview.  He might see that as showing up the Big 12 in some way.

We’re not saying that is the issue.  Obviously, we’ve already stated that we still believe MU will be accepted into the SEC between Wednesday and Friday of this week.  But we’re saying that could be an issue.  Slive might not see it as a gentlemanly act to turn a Big 12 game into a de facto SEC game (though it will still be unofficially hyped that way by the media).

The bottom line?  There will be a bit more waiting for fans and talking heads before this deal is signed and sealed.  But no one should be angry  about the timeline.  As we noted earlier today, the process to land Missouri is still moving at a quicker pace than the process that landed Texas A&M.

 


59 comments
Red Thompson
Red Thompson

If Missouri got a Big 10 offer right now, they would take it. It is too bad the SEC wants a team that does not really want them. Additionally, they are passing a team who wants and deserves to be in (WVU). Time for the SEC to rescind the offer and move on toward taking WVU.

Jack38
Jack38

The Big 12 initially asked for exit fees from Missouri in the range of $30 million and $26 million from A&M. Obviously, that's ridiculous considering Nebraska negotiated to less than $10 million. Part of this delay is undoubtedly due to the lawyers doing their lawyer dance over this issue.

Also, the statement above about the Aggie fans and Missouri's attendance against OSU has been repeated by Jamie several times on this site and is simply untrue. It was an SRO sellout. Now, the reason some A&M fans have never seen a Missouri fan is because they don't travel far from College Station unless they are playing Texas. I don't believe they sold out their allotment the last time they were scheduled in Columbia.

AU4life
AU4life

Hey John, how much do you expect mizzou to pay in exit fees?

JEH
JEH

John,

Isn't it likely that this "delay" is all about exit fees and how much Mizzou will have to leave behind in terms of buy-out. With the B12 commish comments and others, it seems likely that B12 may be trying to play hardball w/ Mizzou. I could see the Big XII doing this b/c of the fact that the Mizzou replacements(teams like Lville or WVU) may not be allowed to exit the Big East in time for next season.

johnmrsec
johnmrsec

JEH...

Yes, those are the i's that need dotting and t's that need crossing. Mizzou also wants to know what the SEC believes the school can make in the coming years (in other words, how much more TV money the league is expecting to make).

This is just about dollars and sense. If the fee is too high and Mizzou can't pay it, they may have to stay for a year. But that's doubtful.

Thanks for reading,
John

Statesman
Statesman

Neinas has proven to live in a delusional world. Upon taking the commisionor's office he said

1)" I think I can convince A&m to stay
2)" I'm visiting Missouri my 1st week on the job"....cancelled when he realized it was too late
3)" Missouri issues have been addressed w/ 1st & 2n tier right"...........Mizzou abstained from voting
4)"Missouri will not leave until 2013"

He attempts to make comments to the media to give the impression of stabilit w/n the Big 12, while everyone on the outside can see the instability. I would not believe his headlines or quotes.

Lw Maxwell
Lw Maxwell

What?? " In other words, there’s no need to panic" , was someone PANICKING ??? (sounds bias) “There’s no delays here at all", yeah, right" if it was the B10 they would have announced ( they are brilliantly using SEC for leverage (that's all). Come on folks, can we please get BEST Virginia, AKA - WVU. Stop the tiger (Miz) Zou?

tradeassociation
tradeassociation

Oh please. You guys applied to the ACC at the same time that you applied to the SEC. You didn't apply to the Big 10 only because you knew that you had no shot (meaning that you felt that the SEC had lower standards). Were the ACC or the Big 10 to accept WVU, you guys would drop the SEC like a hot potato.

Lw Maxwell
Lw Maxwell

Maybe, but that would not be the Fans ( a word not in Mizzou's dictionary ) choice. We want the SEC for the battles, not the money..

StevenBrew
StevenBrew

Sorry dude, fans do not matter in realignment. I am a Mizzou FAN and cover every sport they play which makes me real fan not a disgusting 1 sport follower but it does not matter. I hope WV dominates the BIG12, I will be rooting for them.

anti-troll
anti-troll

quit trolling - this is not a real wvu fan

Lw Maxwell
Lw Maxwell

Thanks for reading me..

anti-troll
anti-troll

ok cool your jets. I didn't think anyone could be naive enough to think that WV still had a chance to get into the SEC. The process has gone way too far with Missouri. There is 0.0001% chance WVU is going to take Missouri's place in the SEC at this time. You were already told to stop begging in another post. The only reason to be here following this now is to see when Missouri & the SEC formally announce it so that the B12 will likely formally make an offer to WVU - nothing else.

Lw Maxwell
Lw Maxwell

I've been a true fan (30+ years) I played on WVU field, My daughter calls it Best Virginia - and your a #$#%%%^^%&%^&

anti-troll
anti-troll

I've lived in WV for 40 years and have never heard the phrase "BEST" Virginia.
It's West Virginia, West By God Virginia, Almost Heaven West Virginia, or Wild and Wonderful West Virginia.
BEST Virginia sounds like something an out of stater made up.

Lw Maxwell
Lw Maxwell

I've been a true fan (30+ years)
Not one that hides their name. I question YOUR Fanhood..

Tony
Tony

The only reason I'm watching this at this point is to see how the B12 will replace schools by raiding the Big East & then who the Big East will add to fill those holes. I don't see Missouri as a catch for the SEC football fan. Sure, someone will reap the benefit of money in the pocket - not the football fans.

Janson Roberts
Janson Roberts

You sound just like the nay-sayers back when Kramer brought in South Carolina and Arkansas. They were wrong then and you are completely wrong now. All you nays need to get a grip. Thank goodness none of you guys have anything to do with running a sports conference, much less the premier conference in the country. As a lifelong SEC fan, it is embarassing to read some of your comments. If all I had in life was to sit here and spout hate and negative comments about other Universities, it would definately be a very empty life to live. There are some excellant counceling services that some of you are really in need of. The SEC and Slive are doing quite well, thanks for your concern. Great work by Slive and the Presidents. ANyone that has any financial sense can see the benefits that are happening right before our eyes. As far as sports, it is played on the field and not at on any chat sites.

BeepLikeAJeep
BeepLikeAJeep

Putting together Deaton's comments with the rumors swirling around Big 12 country of WVU joining, it seems to me that one of the big reasons for Mizzou's departure from the Big 12 is what will happen regarding our exit fees. More specifically, if WVU joined the Big 12, they wouldn't actually be able to have any of their teams compete next season, and Mizzou's departure would leave the Big 12 at 9 teams for next season which I'm guessing they would really like to avoid. It sounds like the Big 12 is trying to pressure Mizzou into playing in the Big 12 next year, or raise the exit fees to exorbitant levels. I'm sure Deaton and Mizzou's lawyers are looking for ways to avoid either of those scenarios. Other than than, sounds like we'll be joining the SEC soon and I'm glad to be joining a REAL conference! Only wish kU would man up and keep playing us in sports though…

AGator
AGator

I'll predict the KC newspaper coverage the week before a future MU-KU game:

Kansas: Player who turned his life around when he got a scholarship at KU.

Mizzou: Parking attendant who is struggling financially because he no longer mans the parking booth on Big 12 tournament weekend. All of KC suffering because Mizzou left the Big 12.

AU4life
AU4life

Doesn't Mizzou have any other rivals?

StevenBrew
StevenBrew

Not since Nebraska left.

StevenBrew
StevenBrew

Yes it was a rival. You know nothing pal. Who do you root for, the flavor of the month?

rmft
rmft

riiiight... that was such a "huge" rivalry

GeoffDawg
GeoffDawg

Kansas is coming off like a bunch of entitled brats. They're giving up a 100+ year tradition and costing the local KC economy untold amounts of cash out of some petulant sense of spite. You're lucky to be getting out of there with or without the KU game.

MIZ_SEC
MIZ_SEC

Chuck Carlton tweet:

Hearing from Big 12 school sources that Missouri, Big 12 are negotiating legal issues, including departure date (2012 or '13) and exit fees.

GatorBill
GatorBill

The SEC and Slive look incredibly weak in managing their own conference. They are not selecting teams. Tamu and Mizzou came to them and pushed their way in. When OU and TX tried the power play on the PAC 12, the member schools stood up for themselves and said this isn't happening on your terms.

The SEC clearly wasn't looking to expand right now. But when Tamu threw themselves at them, they accepted them. Tamu offers a large tv market and fertile recruiting grounds. Mizzou on the other hand is nothing but a schedule filler. They are a mouth to feed at the table. They will never be at the top half of the conference in revenue generation. Mizzou dilutes the SEC brand. Mizzou vs Vandy/Tucky/Miss/MSU are unwatchable products. The Mizzou brand doesn't even really deliver pro-dominated STL or KC markets. Mizzou is routinely overlooked by bowls because the fans don't travel. It's a bad add. Ask the B1G. They chose the attractive national Husker Brand over Mizzou's tepid suburban television market.

Slive doesn't look like he is running the ship. He's had his hand forced by Tamu and Mizzou. He hasn't carefully planned these one-hundred year decisions. He's had them dictated to him by television partners.

Hodad
Hodad

Bill, are you one of those jort wearing Gators? You certainly don't know much about where the power is in Big Time football. It's in Slive's office.

AGator
AGator

Mizzou would probably be favored to win the SEC East division this year.

rmft
rmft

laughable

StevenBrew
StevenBrew

as are you. Heard Bill Self begging people to come to the cupcake games at allan fieldhouse. Will you be there?

GeoffDawg
GeoffDawg

I have a completely different viewpoint on this. When you're operating from a position of strength, you have the flexibility to sit back and let others come to you. You don't have to risk showing all your cards and/or looking like a jackal (Swofford) or a buffoon (Neinas). Mike Slive has managed this whole process with dignity and patience because he can afford to.

BeepLikeAJeep
BeepLikeAJeep

More TV sets = more television revenue, and as an example take the B1G Network. Let's say I'm from Tennessee, and I have an all-inclusive TV sports-package which comes with the B1G Network. Now because we are not in the B1G footprint (no B1G schools in my state), the B1G Network generates less revenue than if I were, say, in Michigan where the B1G Network will come standard with any cable carriers in that state. Can't remember the numbers presented when following expansion last year, but the B1G Network revenue is a crap ton more if there's a B1G school in that state.

This is one of the reasons the SEC is adding Mizzou and A&M. Will help expand the SEC footprint, and bring in a lot of TV sets that will help generate Scrooge McDuck type money for the future SEC Network.

ShowMeMO$
ShowMeMO$

The B1G network makes close to $1.00 off every household in a B1G conference state that has a subscription, and the B1G network only gets .05 off every household not in a B1G conference state that has a subscription. It doesn't matter if they are tuned into the games or not.
30 million additional households in Mizzou and TAMU. currently, the SEC only has 50 million households to put into perspective.

StevenBrew
StevenBrew

ok. so subtract 1 Missourian from being a fan of Mizzou but still get the cable fee. Works perfect. Like Chef Tell said "Very simple very easy".

AU4life
AU4life

But living in Dallas I can assure you TAMU presence here is miniscule compared to Texas. Also, my buddy from St louis has no interest in Mizzou and their sports. He's purely a pro fanatic. So I'm not sure where your getting 30million tv sets. There are tons more AU fans here in dallas than Mizzou.

MIZ_SEC
MIZ_SEC

The hyperbole in your post is hysterical.

1. SEC fans have the right to be disappointed, but understand it is not grounded in any reality. The truth is that with A&M and Mizzou, the SEC just won this round of national conference realignment, beating the Big Ten's addition of Nebraska, PAC's additions of Colorado and Utah, and ACC's additions of Pitt and Syracuse. SEC added 31 million residents and doubled the number of top 30 metro markets in its footprint. The SEC now has the largest populated geographic footprint in the country. Think that could help increase exposure and brand value, even in times when the SEC isn't winning 5 NC's in a row?

2. Mizzou dominates the St. Louis market (the largest metro area in MO) and is right there with ku in the KC market. You clearly have never even been to Missouri. And I didn't realize it was a rule that a metro area could not cheer passionately for both college and pro teams. Guess we will have to fill Michigan, Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Texas in on the news.

3. Speaking of unwatchable products, did Alabama just score again on your boys? Seriously, I am pretty shocked that a Gator fan is talking smack on anyone this year.

hartlrs
hartlrs

I'm a Gator fan (living in Columbia, MO) & TOTALLY agree with your first point. Once again, Slive & the SEC are way ahead of the curve as far as the future of college athletics is concerned. They were the first to add a championship game & I believe they will be the first to a 16 team conference, eventually paving the way for a playoff in college football. The Big 10 & Pac 12, long associated with stability & tradition, after 20 years have realized that college athletics is on the move, and have finally joined them by adding championship games this year. With the addition of Texas A&M & Mizzou the SEC is now in 11 states & by that alone, seizes more power. Along with that, they add two more AAU unveristies, only adding to the academic side of things in the SEC. The Big 12 is now the only major conference without a championship game, all due to greed on the part of a couple of its' member institutions. Brilliant moves by all; the SEC, Texas A&M & Mizzou!

MIZ_SEC
MIZ_SEC

Looks like the votes are in order. From the KOMU article:

When asked if he had the needed votes from the SEC presidents for an invite he replied, "I'll let them speak for themselves, we're reasonably clear about where we stand."

johnmrsec
johnmrsec

MIZ_SEC...

We included that quote in the piece above.

John

Just sayin'
Just sayin'

If Mizzou is a 'nerd and eyeball' addition to the SEC, then what in the heck are Miss State and Ole Miss? Real estate maybe, but not eyeballs--and defintely not eyeballs with cash. Nerd factor--Seriously?

Milo Moon
Milo Moon

Ole Miss and Miss St are Charter members. If the SEC was being built today, only one of them would be in the conference. Just like Duke and Wake Forest would not be in the ACC, and Northwestern in the B10. You would only have one school per state, though I could still see the case for both Bama and Burn in the same conference. However the conferences are dealing with the cards that are dealt - The SEC has both Miss St. and Ole Miss and there is nothing wrong with that.

Jamie Thornton
Jamie Thornton

IF fans don't like MIssouri, they don't like Missouri. Talking to a lot of fans at work and on the sports talk radio here; they're really mad about it. They think it's the worst expansion move in ncaa history. Oh well. They can get over it. Nobody talks that bad about Kentucky always being so bad in football. IF the SEC had brought in OU, OSU, and Clemson; that would be a killer. How could you expect the SEC to keep winning national titles with that lineup? If MIzzou turns out to be a flop, oh well. They still make a lot of money off those new markets. I do have some concerns about the fan base. Since several Aggie fans pointed out that they didn't even have a full house for the OSU game last week. That's just more seats for the SEC school that week to watch. I did ask Aggie fans on facebook what they could tell me about Mizzou fans and traditions. Since they have been in the same conference for 16 years. They all said the same thing. We've never met a Missouri fan. I hope that will change in the SEC>

buddha22
buddha22

Well, at least they didn't lie, never saw an aggie fan in Columbia even once! Truth is, only had about 4 opportunities, but travel? Nah, aggies don't travel very well at all.

rmft
rmft

Yeah Aggies didn't sell out their allotment of tickets to the Arkansas game in Dallas... I think that says about all that needs to be said about Aggies "traveling Well"

But I dont expect to see more than a handful of missouri tigers at away games in the SEC either. If they can't sell out a home game vs the #3 team there isn't a chance they'll be making the trip to Gainesville or Athens

Murr
Murr

Yeah, Mizzou is being added as a nerd and eyeball school. The only tradition they have is inventing homecoming and crappy football.

Gator39
Gator39

The Gators conference schedule just got a whole lot easier. Adding Missouri will prove to be one of the worst move in the history of the SEC. Don't care anything about their recent success while playing in below average Big 12 North with a down Nebraska, K-State, and Colorado. Missouri has a losing record vs. the Big 12 South in that same time period.

Eli
Eli

No sir Gator39 your wrong!! You need to get your facts straight! Missouri beat most of their southern conference games when things were good with chase daniel and maclin except OU they were just better and had a better defense . They would've been a much better team this year if gabbert hadnt went pro. I dont know any football team that stays on top year in and year out. Most teams have their ups and down. Gary Pinkel has done the best job of any coach ive ever seen at missouri....so you gotta give the guy a little credit. If mizzou makes it to the SEC east and after they play you the flordia gators then talk all the trash you want if you beat them. As for right now all you have to do is go and look in the mirror before talking trash about someones football team....

Hodad
Hodad

Yeah, adding Mizzou ,thus enhancing the SEC's academics AND leading to a bigger payday by adding two big city markets, is a bad move.

James
James

The Gators schedule NEEDS to get easier....

JarrenBlake
JarrenBlake

At what point did the win lose capabilities of Mizzou factor in heavily into expansion? Mizzou wins on another of fronts outside of football. And any program can be turned about and around by the right coach. UConn, Boise State, Utah, USC just to name a few.

Gator39
Gator39

The Gators will win three more national championshps before Missouri wins one.

rmft
rmft

mizzou will never win an SEC title... NC isn't even in the realm of possibility

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