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AP: Mizzou Hopes For SEC But Would Have Preferred Big Ten

Missouri makes sense. 

When it comes to making a business decision, Missouri would be a good one for the SEC.  From a TV perspective, from a basketball perspective, and from an academic perspective, etc, etc.

But the folks at Mizzou really aren’t very good at PR.  At all.  And that makes us wonder if the Tigers really do make sense if spreadsheets and mortarboards and included in the conversation.

Last summer, the school made it very clear that it would like to receive an invitation from the Big Ten.  When that league added Nebraska, Mizzou was left with an egg the size of the Gateway Arch on its face.

Now, as the school apparently angle for an SEC bid, one Mizzou source has told the AP that the Big Ten remains the school’s top choice, but Jim Delany’s league “has not interest.”

Wait.  It gets worse.

“That’s what’s left,” the person said referring to the SEC.

That’s what’s left?

Uh, no… the Big 12 as Texas’ whipping boy is what’s left.  A Big East mish-mash is what’s left.  A drop down into Conference USA might be what’s left.

The natural reaction to this story from most SEC fans will be pretty darn negative.  That’s why it’s important to remember that this one “school official” might be a lone kook.  He or she may be the only person in Columbia who views the situation as being Big Ten — first prize, SEC — what’s left.

To find out MU’s true feelings, perhaps it’s time for commissioner Mike Slive to let Missouri sweat a bit.  If they’re not all in for the SEC then perhaps they shouldn’t be granted a seat at the table.

It’s not good when one school looks down its nose at its league partners.  Missouri should know that by now… as it’s been the school being looked down upon by Texas since 1995. 

 


31 comments
Mufan
Mufan

Jamie and Bammer, you're just wrong. I grew up in MO and Columbia. No one in MO really thought seriously about the SEC in past years. NOW we do. We now realize it's possible. Just about everyone I talk to - admin, fans, alums - prefers the SEC to the Big Ten, in part b/c the Big Ten rejected us once, in part b/c we never thought before that the SEC was possible. We'd prove a great fit, especially over time. And no passion? Did you see the OK/MU game last year on TV? Come on! And the biggest Gameday crowd up to that time and possibly of all time.

And markets/fans? By far the best analysis is the following: http://thequad.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/19/the-g... MU is definitely a good fit in the SEC.

WDE>Bammer
WDE>Bammer

Jamie, please don't let facts get in the way of anything. It would be better to stay at 13 schools than to add a mediocre program that wants to be elsewhere. I will admit there is a small contingent of MU fans hellbent on getting into the SEC, but they do not reflect the majority nor the administration. MU wants the Big Ten and if they offered today, MU would snub its nose at the SEC in a heartbeat. With Arkansas, South Carolina, and Texas A&M, there was never any doubt on where they wanted to be.

Jamie Thornton
Jamie Thornton

Lets see. Ohio borders Kentucky. Lets Add Ohio State too. How about Illinois? Lets get real. Missouri is a huge box of land in mid-america. It borders a lot of state. As Paul Finebaum said today, nobody in Missouri cares about Missouri. St.Louis cares about the Cardinals. Most of northern MIssouri love Illinois. Kansas City loves the chiefs and KU. Southwestern Missouri is full of Arkansas fans. He even pointed out when he went to a football game there was no passion by the fans. It's another world. ON top of this, the SEC is leftovers for Missouri. Even fans calling in said they wished they could get the BIG. There is a lack of passion that Missouri has, that doesn't belong in the SEC. If you don't believe me on that, just read the ap articles everywhere on MIzzou. So the best conference in America wants to take a school that really wants to be somewhere else. Sounds like a great idea to me. If you can't understand that and think they're a good fit........go ahead. Welcome them in.

Jamie Thornton
Jamie Thornton

^ By the way. Paul went on to say he understands the media market situation. But lets be honest. If nobody in Missouri is turning on to see the SEC network............why does it matter?

Stevenbrew
Stevenbrew

Love this site MRSEC!! I am one of the biggest Mizzou fans in the KC metro area and would rather go to the SEC than the BIG10 even though the fit in the BIG10 seems to be perfect in many ways. I seriously doubt that the brass make a habit of reading speculation so they will not think twice about this propaganda out of KS and TX if it makes it to them somehow.

Rob
Rob

So here's a question I have: If Missouri joins the SEC, will the conference create an exit fee to keep them from bolting down the road? That's not how we do things, is it?

Rob
Rob

This is the one reason why I think Missouri is a bad idea. I mean, do we really want a school that could bolt for the Big Ten in any given year? I like everything else about adding Missouri, but I'd rather have a school that wants to be in the SEC, such as WV, then one that doesn't.

In this piece, John focused on Missouri leaks, but while that's not good either, all they're doing is being honest. Everyone knows that Missouri wants the Big Ten, regardless of what they say. Pretending otherwise isn't going to stop them from bolting from the SEC 10 years down the road.

WDE>Bammer
WDE>Bammer

The SEC doesn't need Big Ten rejects like Missouri. Please give us a real team like Florida State and not some Big Eight has been that would be terrible in the SEC.

Gator39
Gator39

The SEC should stay at 13. Missouri should just go away.

Aggiefaithful
Aggiefaithful

I can see this being a smear campaign, except Mizzou seemed to drop the ball on the whole PR concern last year with the Big 10. That being said, as an Aggie I have always liked Mizzou, and it would be good to keep playing them in the SEC. I wish them the best (and the Ags; seems we can't finish a game these days, let alone the future gauntlet of the SEC!)

texas will eventually push that longhorn network to the brink of what it can and can't get away with; then ESPN will do the real dirty work and burn any remaining bridges. That is what gets me. texas says it just wants to get along, but they are an investment of ESPN now, and the network will not let the athletic dept. fall down to far from year to year.

MRSEC is a fantastic website; I go here now for any breaking news before looking at any other site. Keep up the great work. Can't wait to keep reading about the SEC and my Ags in the years ahead on here; proud to be joining this legendary conference.

MissouriGuy
MissouriGuy

never believe anything with an "anyonomous source"

All the Mizzou fans I know (self included) want to got to the SEC. Is the B1G a better cultural fit....maybe, but they hate us for some damn reason so it doesn't matter. I think the SEC is 10x better than the B1G

johnmrsec
johnmrsec

Oakley7...

Yes, 'cause if there's anything this site has done -- since initially pointing out Mizzou would make a good candidate roughly 15 months before anyone else did -- it's "fan the flame of hate!!!"

John

Oakley7
Oakley7

The Mizzou fans that I know are thrilled of the chance to join the SEC...even more than the B1G...please do not use this headline to fan the flame of hate !!!

throwingoranges
throwingoranges

Yeah, this is an ill-timed "leak." I don't personally blame the journalist who reported it, but there are clearly a lot of "sources" with a lot of different opinions.

I'm not quite in the foil-cap club that believes all of this negative press is a conspiracy, but I do believe people should consider the different interests involved and how they might move to protect themselves.

Kirk
Kirk

Bunch of crap from a horrible reporter who has a personal bone to pick with Mizzou. Press makes it even worse by giving it legs. Mizzou fams want the SEC plain and simple.

egressin
egressin

im a lil disconnected from kansas city due to the military but all the mizzou fans i know here in texas want the sec first and foremost. most of the people i know who support current sec schools think its a good move. obviously we wouldnt do great in football but sports in general we will fit great. i loved the big 12 but always looked up the the sec. i look forward to mizzou joining the sec and will be purchasing a new jersey just so itll have the sec patch.

FourThinInches
FourThinInches

Jamie, How do you not see how Mizzou would fit into the SEC? They share borders with Arkansas and Kentucky, and the state has 2 major cities. Go look at a map sometime.

I also think that this story is a smear campaign. Probably to create angst for the SEC towards mizzou. Texas, Big 12, maybe ESPN behind it. DO NOT underestimate the lengths Texas will go to ensure that they keep their 15 Million a year LHN contract and their $$$ money from FOX for Big 12 games.

UofA72
UofA72

This isn't the first time some anonymous big mouth has "spoken" for Missouri. Remember the KC Star article a few weeks ago, where "an anonymous booster" said Missouri had received an invitation from the SEC, but they weren't interested.

As someone from MIssouri pointed out awhile back, they are a state that has ties with and the same attitudes of the midwest, south, and west, depending on which part of the state you live in. They never have totally agreed on anything, and probably never will.

My opinion, not having first hand knowledge, is that Missouri did have feelers out to the Big 10 last summer. At the time the B1G was eleven teams when other major conferences were twelve. Mizzou surely had some conversation with the Big 10 officials regarding a move. They erroneously let the cat out of the bag. Once Nebraska saw that B1G had interest in going to 12, they threw there hat in the ring. B1G took them instead of Missouri.

mizzou kp
mizzou kp

Lets not forget that a college professor is a school official. As heard last night it was a "unanimous decision." I think that should end this thread...............

lmhagood
lmhagood

Sounds like smear to me. A&M had to go through some pretty ugly stuff being said about them, so now I guess it's Mizzou's turn to be the bad guy. Back in mid August when the A&M/SEC rumor hit it's first fever pitch, UT hired a notorious PR/lobbying firm (HillCo. Partners), and the smear against A&M started. We got to read every crazy, ugly thing you can possibly say about a school, then see it repeated multiple times throughout various news outlets. I wouldn't put anything past the some of the Big 12 schools (and ESPN/LHN) to do everything in their power to force Mizzou to stay. Seriously, this is the same conference with the lovely Ken Starr....they play dirty. I could be wrong here, but if Mizzou ends up in the SEC, I think they are going to be just as grateful, relieved and thankful as A&M is to be moving to a stable and strong conference.

AllTideUp
AllTideUp

Never underestimate the role of "ego" in negotiations and contract partnerships. These are human beings making these decisions. If Slive gets the feeling that Mizzou doesn't want the SEC then you can bet he will consider his options.

With that said, this report doesn't mean there are any significant number of people associated with Mizzou that feel like a move to the SEC would be like moving to the slums. You never know what's going on behind closed doors.

Alan
Alan

Well most of us as a poll showed last night are ready and raring to join the SEC. Imagine traveling to FL, MS ( I love the boats) and New Orleans instead of Oklahoma and Kansas.

statesman
statesman

Mizzou going to the SEC affecst several conferences, (Big12, Big 10,Big East, Mt West, etc). It's a real game changer!! A lot of jobs will be lost, so you can bet throughout the process there will be several attempts to sabotage. The move will end the Big East, put pressure on Big 10 to expand as the SEC moves into their backyard, and possibly force Texas to give up the LHN. It will get dirty, but the SEC understands that we will be proud to be a part of your conference

jon
jon

Before everyone gets up in a tizzy, the author or this report is an AP writer who lives in Columbia, MO, and has a history of writing negative articles towards MU. Interestingly, ESPN chose to barely cover last nights presser, with true-to-life sources, but is quick to post a story from an anonymous source. Don't forget who controls the longhorn network. Most MU fans have been expecting a counter assault against their potential defection to a superior conference( and it's not the B10), so I would take this report with a big grain of salt. The administration, in no way made any comments of the sort. This is an attempt to sway public opinion against Mizzou, to keep them in the B12. Remember who is running the Big 12, as well as the Ken Starr's and David Boren's. There is a reason MU wants to escape from their grasp but just as the hotel California, you can check out any time you'd like, but you can never leave. MU to SEC is still on and the people who need to know are fully aware of the sabotaging tactics of the B12 powers. Be careful what you read until this is finalized.

mizzou kp
mizzou kp

A complete fabrication! Up until the contract is signed there is going to be a smear campaign and you are going to hear all kinds of reports which are anti SEC. Basically there is a small faction of angry pro BiG 12/ KC supporters. I hope the SEC and its fan base realize this. Fact: depending on what poll you look at 70% to 90% support MU to the SEC. Fact: After last years debacle with the BIG Boring, it left MU with egg on its face. Not only did it enrage the university it also infuriated our Governor. There will be plenty of talk and reports but the train has left the building already and we can only hope the sooner the better a deal can be reached.

Minnemo
Minnemo

I think KU fans are swamping several conversations with lots of anti-MU propaganda. This story is from the KC Star, consider the source.

Jamie Thornton
Jamie Thornton

Paul Finebaum has trashed Missouri today. Several Mizzou fans have said the same thing about wanting the BIG. I just don't see how they fit in the SEC. THe 13 schools in the conference want to be in it. THat wont be the case if Mizzou joins. THey want the SEC over the Big 12. Sure. Who wouldn't. But if the BIG said come on over, Mizzou would leave the SEC>

FlimFlamSpam
FlimFlamSpam

Thats BS! KC and the ESPN are making it up. Notice it is always Anonymous that always opens their mouth. Just them trying to keep KC relevant and a TV contract in the Big 12. Don't buy into their lies.... It is ESPN by the way

johnmrsec
johnmrsec

FlimFlamSpam...

Actually, it's the Associated Press. We just linked to ESPN's copy of that story. Everyone's running it. So it would have to be the Associated Press that's making up sources and quotes to undermine Missouri.

John

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