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Report: OU Sooners Ready To Move West

For SEC and Texas A&M fans hoping that a union between the two would go smoothly… it looks like you’re out of luck.

Baylor slowed down the process last week by threatening to sue the SEC (and maybe even Mike Slive) if the Big 12 blew apart.  At this point, Iowa State and Kansas also appear to be holding out when it comes to waiving their rights to sue.

The best case scenario for getting things back on track was for the Big 12 to pull together and agree to carry on as a unit.  In other words, if Oklahoma agreed to stay, Baylor wouldn’t start filing lawsuits.

Well, according to Orangebloods.com — the Rivals site covering Texas — Oklahoma will apply for Pac-12 membership by the end of the month.  As has been made clear throughout this recent wave of realignment talk, if OU goes, so too will Oklahoma State.

According to “a source close to OU’s administration” has told Orangebloods.com that the school’s board of regents is “fed up with the instability in the Big 12.”

This comes one day after The Oklahoman — and former Charleston Post & Courier beatwriter Travis Haney — reported that OU and OSU might not get as cushy an offer from the Pac-12 as they received last year before the league expanded by two.  “A Southeastern Conference official” also told the paper over the weekend that the league “expects Texas A&M eventually to be cleared to join the SEC.”

If the Orangebloods.com report is true — big if — we could be looking at a month-long game of chicken.  A&M and the SEC might try to wait out Oklahoma and the Pac-12.  Even though A&M wants to move yesterday, it would probably be in the school’s best interest to let OU make the first move.

If Oklahoma announces a move first, then Baylor might have a new target for Ken Starr’s legal team.  And that might further protect the Aggies and the SEC.

However, knowing that potential lawsuits and time and money and headaches are on the horizon for anyone moving first, it’s likely that we’re in for a long staring contest.

If Oklahoma really is preparing to leave, then this whole mess could be decided by who blinks first — the Sooners or the Aggies.

 


18 comments
AllTideUp
AllTideUp

Another question is this....if OU and OSU are heading to the Pac 1? then does that mean the Pac is heading to 16 as quickly as it can or will they settle at 14 for a while? Texas Tech certainly wants in, but does that mean Texas is heading West as well? People keep talking about the viability of the LHN being used as one of the regional networks for the Pac, but it seems there is a big hurdle there in my mind. ESPN owns the LHN whereas ESPN is not a broadcast partner with the Pac 12 network. I know that the LHN has come out of the gate with a fizzle, but I can't imagine the ESPN brass is ready to hand over the keys yet to someone else.

If the dominoes are about to fall does that mean the SEC is about to aggressively pursue 16 or are they going to sit back and wait to see if the new Pac 16 makes it? Does Mizzou call on the SEC after all when the Big 12 blows up? Will Batman escape this time? Tune in next time!

eeAg91
eeAg91

If Chip Brown of Orangebloods told me it was raining outside I would stick my head out a window before I believed him. Just say'n... Question, why would “a source close to OU’s administration” tell Orangebloods anything? I would think that professional beat writers in OK would have developed sources that could confirm that, but no, all stories quote Orangebloods. Hummm... Makes you wonder doesn't it?

Jamie Thornton
Jamie Thornton

IF 4 or more schools leave the big 12, there is no way to keep the conference together. Nobody left is going to stay and add schools like SMU, Houston, Tulsa, Memphis, exc. That's all they would get. That means the lawsuits are pointless and I really think this is the quickest way to get the Aggies in the sec. If the BIg 12 did stay together, Ken Starr could hold that lawsuit over the sec and aggies forever. What can he do if everyone leaves? Including Baylor. Nothing. I hope the Sec can get mizzou in this and call it a day at 14. We already have Auburns president saying they would go east.

vp81955
vp81955

If Oklahoma and Okie State each pulled an A&M, the validity of Baylor's case looks all the more ridiculous (There are also reports Texas Tech would follow the Oklahoma schools, putting the squeeze on Texas to head to the Pac or risk being left at the station.) If Texas goes west, Mizzou heads to the SEC as member #14 (its likely preferred scenario, though its first choice would probably be the Big Ten)

UofA72
UofA72

If A&M, OU, OSU, and any other team planning to move, all announce together, then wouldn't Baylor be forced to sue all of them and their new conferences in total? In the unlikely event that Baylor wins, or even settles, the payments would be spread evenly. The amount per defendent should be relatively small. and possibly take a couple of years before payment is necessary. What conference would want Baylor after their legal action? Baylor's actions here might indicate their own complicity in any revenue loss.

Legal history is not on Baylor's side. Regardless of what else happens, Baylor's Star will fall.

Mike
Mike

John,

I think this is the perfect opportunity right now for TAMU to leave, in fact I think there is supposed to be a meeting tonight in MIzzou about this and Baylor will be tryin to sue everybody (OU, TAMU, Mizzou), at the end, Baylor will signed that waiver for TAMU to leave and pray that they can find a nice AQ conference to join. I think that with OU, OSU, TAMU, Mizzou(?) and with Kansas and Kansas State(might join the Big East) they have enough votes to disband the Big XII.

Kirk
Kirk

OU has waited until it had all the counter-moves worked out and are very confident of the results. There is a reason why this info has been released at this time, and through the Orangebloods site. It's not by accident, and it isn't a "scoop" for Orangebloods. While on the surface, SEC and A&M fans may think this hurts A&M's SEC move, in fact it helps and accelerates it. Now. OU is giving 2 weeks notice so the other Big 12 teams, including Baylor, can start making definitive decisions on where they are going to go or how they will configure a re-made Big 12. I think you will now see others schools start to solidify their plans.

S.r. Foster
S.r. Foster

A&M should just remain patient. OU is shaking their cage, but watch out for an unknown like Mizzou or Kansas starting something ... chains break at their weakest links.

Kirk
Kirk

Not really. Orangebloods gets all its info from the Texas athletic admin. They always use these guys to leak stuff - often it is true, sometimes they want to have something get out to gauge reaction, sometimes it's a fear tactic. Notice the story names the 3 Texas attendees and then only indicates that Boren of Oklahoma was also there. It also states "a source CLOSE to OU's administration". Well, Powers and Dodds could fit that description. I believe the story to be true and that OU wanted to see if they could get Texas to signup with them - or work out the timing of when Texas might follow. If we go back to when the A&M invite was really heating up, around Aug 31, and re-read the Austin Statesman story below, you may get the feeling that OU and Texas are following a script they may have designed a while back. Do I know this? No. Do I believe it's possible that OU/UT have played out the good cop-bad cop routine over the last couple of weeks so Texas can claim they had choice(Texas politics)? Yes. Whether that theory is true or not, I have believed that OU would be going to the PAC-12 as soon as the A&M invite started getting serious, with or without Texas. If that happens, the two will probably still play in non-conf, they did for many decades prior to the Big 12 forming. http://www.statesman.com/sports/longhorns/one-mor...

UofA72
UofA72

I can't see those 4 schools leaving Conference USA just for the Big 12 name, which is about all that would be left without A&M, Missouri, OU, OSU, and Tech. If Texas remains, it would be like throwing 4 squirrels into a cage with a desperate rotweiller.

The other 4 remaining schools, Kansas, K-State, Ia-State, and Baylor, might just recover from their terminal case of Stockholm Syndrome and leave Texas behind too. Look out Sunbelt! Welcome to LHN!

MIZ_SEC
MIZ_SEC

Pretty much, and I wouldn't be surprised at all if this was discussed in detail on the mystery OU plan flight that flew from Norman to Columbia, then College Station, then back to Columbia and Norman a couple weeks ago.

I think OU, A&M, and Mizzou have a joint plan and we are seeing it begin to play out.

GigEmAgs2014
GigEmAgs2014

That seems to be the plan here, and it looks like OU thought long and hard about it. I'm glad to see them trying to help us out.

James Hill
James Hill

Good comment. Not sure how all this will turn out, but your scenario is as plausible as any.

MIZ_SEC
MIZ_SEC

Reports out of Mizzou are that we are content to wait for OU to break the conference by bolting with OSU, and then we will slide out the door behind them.

hangtime79
hangtime79

If you believe the Bleacher Report article on Fox and ESPN not being able to get out of the contract it would be 12 - 15 MM a year in reasons to join the Big 12 versus what they get now. Big 12 doesn't hang on to its AQ status, but the money would be good through the end of the contract. Everyone has stated that the contract calls for 10 members, not which 10 members.

UofA72
UofA72

Any reports on where they might go or who they might be talking to ?

MIZ_SEC
MIZ_SEC

Almost all talk is SEC, with a few whispers here and there about going to PAC with OU/OSU if Texas doesn't go with them.

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