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While A&M Waits For SEC To Find #14, Big 12 Threatens A Deadline

Texas A&M wants into the SEC yesterday.  Even if it costs — as some have suggested — as much as $30 million in exit penalties.

The SEC slowed the process down over the weekend.  The league wanted to make sure A&M could clear any and all hurdles before providing them a new home.  That and the SEC wants/needs to find and add a 14th team to join alongside the Aggies.

So we wait.  But we may not be waiting for long.

Commissioner Dan Beebe suggested to The Dallas Morning News today that the Big 12 might give A&M a deadline to make a decision.

“I think the (Big 12) members deserve to know what Texas A&M’s intentions are going forward regarding the conference.”  Asked about waiting for months on a decision — which A&M president R. Bowen Loftin has said might be a possibility — Beebe made it clear that he’s not in favor of such a delay.

“I would suggest that would be an untenable position.  We can’t operate with an institution waiting to decide if it wants to remain in the conference.  There has to be a very short time for an institution to commit.”

Beebe said he could approach the Big 12′s board of directors about setting a deadline for A&M’s decision.  (Interestingly, Oklahoma State booster T. Boone Pickens was quoted in a story this morning as saying that A&M have “got three weeks to come to their senses.”)

“Ultimately, our strong main desire is to keep A&M and address whatever needs to be done to keep them as happy, fulfilled members of the conference,” Beebe said.

Yeah.  And forcing a deadline down their throat should really help on that front.

 


19 comments
ViciousDawg
ViciousDawg

If the Big 12-2 is forcing A&M's hand with a time table how can they then ask for $$$$$ to leave the conference?

Don
Don

If I'm not mistaken it's playing out exactly like last year for Nebraska, deadline and all. All that remains to be seen is whether the Aggies can get away for a cool 8 Million like Nebraska and Colorado did. thanks for all the info JP.

mrcooper44
mrcooper44

A couple things that I have thought about the past couple days regarding SEC candidates to 14 are- TX Tech and doubling down on the state of Texas- Great idea but does the SEC want any more Texas drama at this point in the game? It seems UT is not going quietly to any conference so does SEC need to pull the trigger now? Missouri- is much more valuable to the SEC than the Big 10 even if Miz prefers the Big 10; once the Big brought in Nebraska and already having Iowa and Illinois, Missouri's value to the Big dropped significantly because Big 10 basically already has those markets now. But, for the SEC it would be a land grab opening up completely new markets. WV/VTech- either one is a great grab, but I wonder would SEC want both in the future? I keep reading about VTech being the real catch but this maybe isn't the right time for it. Well, there probably will be the right time for it, but if SEC gets WV now, will they still want VTech later? SEC has great options and this is a great site.

james snowden
james snowden

obviously if the big 12 thought the aggies were going to stay in the big12, they wouldn't put out a deadline. THat's not the best way to say, hey, we want you guy to stay. we need you here. now tell us that or else. The new chancellor at A&M even said he wants to be in the sec and isn't looking back. To me it's just the big 12 already ticked off at the aggies. If you think it's bad now, wait until football season. If you doubt that, ask Nebraska in the a&m game last year.

hog
hog

IF byu and ND both joined the big 12, than texas a&M isn't leaving it for the sec. BYU probably would accept an offer but no way ND would bring their football program into the big 12. THe only shot for ND and the big 12 would be the same deal ND gets from the big east, football Independence but full member for other sports. Further, for nd to join the big 12, they would need texas a&M to stay. It could happen but doubtful.

HoustonVol
HoustonVol

The B12 does have the right to say we need to know what you are going to do by X date. the votes would be 9-1 against them. I doubt that they would kick them out, but they could say that if they do not have an answer by X date, you would lose your extra money that we promised you to stay last year.

AllTideUp
AllTideUp

Does the Big 12 even have the authority to post an arbitrary deadline? I suppose that would be found in the conference charter. Anyway, if the Big 12 can't take any action against A&M if A&M doesn't meet the deadline then I think this would just be grandstanding.

James Snowdwn
James Snowdwn

mr.sec john. I'm just sticking with you from now on. you're right. everyone has their own story and that's really their own ideas. You've been great posting what will happen, before it happens. Thanks for posting the information that has truth behind them.

James Snowdwn
James Snowdwn

Reports from the big 12 has the conference going hard after Notre Dame and BYU. BOth programs are huge in their own way and with the way the big 12 is set up, they could have their own networks and broadcast some of their games on them. These were some of the big issues the big 10 wouldn't allow Notre Dame to do them. If they could get one or both, they might be happy getting rid of the Aggies. Because the money from the Espn and Fox deals would really stay in place. They wouldn't lose any games. I would say if one or both schools are interested in the big 12, they have a time limit as well. JUst a guess, but the big 12 obviously doesn't like the idea of the aggies holding the big 12 hostage.

HoustonVol
HoustonVol

John,
I guess you have not seen this from the Houston Chronicle today:
On Monday A&M regents named Sharp the lone finalist for chancellor. He's scheduled to start his new gig next month. A&M president R. Bowen Loftin is in negotiations with the SEC, and privately A&M hopes to announce a move by Sept. 1, and begin play in the new league by 2012.

Read more: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/colleg...

So as far as setting a deadline for them, TAMU already has an internal deadline.

David D
David D

This makes me wonder if the Big 12 is anxious to get started (or maybe already has i.e., Houston) finding replacements for A&M, particularly if A&M is gone to the SEC for the 2012 season. Or maybe this uncertainty is spurring other teams in the Big 12 to start thinking about finding a new home to land.

Marc
Marc

Don't they already have a deadline in place? July 1st of each year?

It's up to A&M whether or not they announce after that deadline and pay any additional penalties.

I'm not sure what the point of adding an additional deadline is here.

@mikerapp
@mikerapp

If you're picking between Virginia Tech and Missouri, it is no contest. Tech is not a state-wide brand in Virginia and sucks in every sport except football. Missouri is legit in every single sport, including baseball and basketball (men's and women's). And I'm sorry, there are more TV sets in either St. Louis or Kansas City than there are in the entire state of Virginia.

The SEC won't beat the ACC in ACC territory. So be it. Fire a shot over the Big 10's bow by taking Mizzou. They are a natural rival with Arkansas, too.

FranktheAg
FranktheAg

With our without ND, A&M is all in for the SEC. There is no turning back. Now if the SEC decides to wait, I think A&M will still announce its plans to exit the B12 and would pursue an invite from the Big Ten or Pac 12. There is no scenario that works with A&M remaining in the Big12.

AllTideUp
AllTideUp

I don't know if they can do that or not whether that makes sense from a practical standpoint. I think the charter would hold the key on whatever measures the conference could legally employ in certain situations. If the Big 12 starts monkeying with the rules then perhaps A&M could sue the conference for damages rather than having to worry about paying a big exit fee. Anyway if the Big 12 start talking about depriving A&M of money then you can as good as kiss them goodbye. If they leave then the SEC will take them.

I don't really see how Beebe is planning on keeping A&M by making a move like this. It seems more logical that this is a tactic to force A&M out quicker and possibly wreak havoc on the SEC by forcing them to take A&M before they are ready. That's a nice little conspiracy theory, but I don't know.

lazlo toth
lazlo toth

james,

the problem is the way information travels today

#1 some homer blogger in his mom's basement who never played sports puts up a blog with nothing but cheeto's and hawaiian punch to fuel his brain leading to all sorts of vivid fantasy dreams.

#2 a reporter gathers data from reliable sources and crunches numbers to arrive at a series of opinions that reflect they way college presidents think

In the old days, #2 ruled the bandwidth, but today #1 has lead the way for the 120 character crowd like peter piper led the rats

man I miss the "good old days"

AllTideUp
AllTideUp

I think BYU would probably be open to joining the Big 12 since it's a BCS conference, but I think Notre Dame would pass. I don't think ND has passed on the Big 10 simply because of TV rights although that's probably part of it. Notre Dame loves their independence. They get all the benefits of being a BCS team without actually having to join a conference. I think they have hinted that they would consider joining a conference if the Big East became non-viable for all their other sports, but I think even then they would desire the Big 10. And the Big 10 has given ND a standing invitation.

johnmrsec
johnmrsec

HoustonVol...

I have seen that and that news has been out for a while. But "hoping to announce something" in 21 days (as was initially reported) is different than a hard, drop-dead date applied by a conference.

Bottom line, the SEC is searching for #14. If they find one in the next couple of weeks, great. If they don't, then all hell will break loose.

And I ask -- again -- please do not link to outside stories. People are doing this more and more and many are linking to things they themselves wrote. I'm not here to provide free advertising for other sites. If we believe something is new or newsworthy, we report on it or link to it.

Thanks,
John

HoustonVol
HoustonVol

Sorry it linked when I posted the text. Did not realize that it would autopost the link when I did it. Just for the record, I did not write it.

I just found it interesting that the new chancellor of the university was stating that they hoped to announce something by 01SEP.

Thanks for keeping things clear. This is my favorite site for SEC news.

HV



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