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SEC Commitment Comparison – 7/11/11

News flash: National Signing Day is 29 weeks from this Wednesday.  In the old days — say five years ago — the majority of SEC schools would still have the majority of their recruiting work to do in those final seven months.  But the recruiting game has changed and you can find the proof on today’s SEC commitment lists.

Eight of the league’s 12 schools are already in double-digits with their commitments.  Five conference programs have already reached the teens.  For those schools, the majority of their work has already been done.  (Of course, those schools will still have to protect their nests.)

Below, we examine the current commitments — according to Rivals.com — that each school has wrangled in 2011.  We break things down by Rivals’ star rankings, knowing full well that those rankings will change greatly this fall.  Also, when tallying the rankings, we assign one point to those players who are currently 0-star prospects according to Rivals.  We doubt the final Rivals rankings will give anyone signing with an SEC school a grade of zero stars.

Here’s the list:


School
Commits
5-stars
4-stars
3-stars
2-stars
1- & 0-stars
Total Points
LSU
15
0
7
7
0
1
50
Florida
13
0
9
3
1
0
47
Alabama
14
0
5
8
0
1
45
S. Carolina
13
0
4
8
0
1
41
Auburn
10
0
8
2
0
0
38
Vanderbilt
12
0
1
10
0
1
35
Georgia
10
0
3
4
0
3
27
Kentucky
13
0
1
5
1
6
27
Arkansas
7
0
1
6
0
0
22
Ole Miss
7
0
1
6
0
0
22
Miss. State
8
0
0
5
1
2
19
Tennessee
2
0
0
1
0
1
4



Some schools still have too few commits to get an accurate average-points-per-player grade, but we’ll go ahead and show those numbers anyway:


School
Avg. Points Per Commitment
Auburn
3.80
Florida
3.61
LSU
3.33
Alabama
3.21
S. Carolina
3.15
Arkansas
3.14
Ole Miss
3.14
Vanderbilt
2.91
Georgia
2.70
Miss. State
2.37
Kentucky
2.07
Tennessee
2.00



Observations:

* As we often point out, it’s no surprise that the schools with the deepest home state talent pools — LSU, Florida, Georgia, Alabama and Auburn — are all in double-digits with their commitment lists.  The more homegrown talent, the easier it is to earn verbal commits.

* Of the two programs that made the biggest gains on the field last season — Arkansas and South Carolina — Carolina is having the most success carrying their momentum over to the Class of 2012.  The Gamecocks currently rank behind only LSU, Florida and Alabama in total points and behind only LSU and Bama in total commitments.  Arkansas has just seven commitments to date and only one currently ranks better than a three-star prospect.  Still, the Hogs and Cocks are neck and neck in average rating per commitment at 3.15 for USC and 3.14 for UA.

* Vanderbilt continues to be the surprise of the conference and the nation.  James Franklin has been beating out traditional powers for players and he’s been doing so with nothing to sell but dreams.  Not to diminish what Franklin’s accomplished, but if VU struggles this fall as expected, opposing coaches will have an easier time poking holes in the new coach’s “big plans” pitch.  That said, we love what the ‘Dores are doing.  A competitive Vandy program would only make the SEC better and deeper — a la Northwestern in the Big Ten and Stanford in the Pac-12.  Recruiting analyst Tom Lugenbill tells The Tennessean that he’s been impressed with the type of players Franklin has landed.  “… You certainly haven’t seen the caliber of players in their commit class that we’re seeing right now.”

* The disappointments around the league would have to be Kentucky — six zero-star prospects — Mississippi State — just a 2.37 average rating per commit — and Tennessee.  Vol fans know that Derek Dooley has closed strong the last two years, but UT is digging itself a deeper hole this time around.  Two commitments?

* While on the subject of recruiting, Rivals has taken a look back at its last 10 years worth of recruiting rankings and five SEC schools have ranked in their Top 10 of recruiting for the decade running from 2002 through 2011:

#2 Georgia — The only school to finish in Rivals’ Top 10 every season
#3 Florida
#4 LSU
#8 Auburn
#9 Tennessee (tied with Michigan)

Southern Cal ranked #1 in recruiting according to Rivals.com.

 


10 comments
UKFAN
UKFAN

Rivals hasnt evaluated all of Kentucky's recruits you touching moron, hence the zero star rating. If you knew recruiting from your acehole you would know a recruit is assigned a zero star if they havent even viewed any film or have the slightest friggin clue who the recruit is.

adam
adam

Both UT's commitments are 4 stars. Both got upgraded. Per ESPN, Rivals and Scout.

Harold Stone
Harold Stone

I am not particularly fond of SEC sites but many of them are accurate with respect to rankings. This site is not it is the poorest of the poor with inaccurate numbers everywhere. You should learn to do a little google research if you are capable.

CharlesMorse
CharlesMorse

In regards to Vanderbilt's upcoming season, I disagree. It doesn't matter if it's another 2-10 year, CJF is recruiting kids who want the challenge of "the biggest turnaround in college football history" to paraphrase Coach Franklin. I think VU's attrition leading up to signing day will be about average, and with a salesman like CJF I would bet that he flips a few commits to make up for it.

Guess we will see (unless Vanderbilt wins its 4 OOC's and Ole Miss and picks off another SEC win, unlikely but possible).

johnmrsec
johnmrsec

UKFAN...

Wow. So ugly over a list. We go to Rivals, pool their information for the conference, and lay it out for you. And after three years, we're quite aware of what 0-stars mean. However, if you think those 0s will turn into 4s and 5s, you're kidding yourself. The best players in the country -- at least those believed to be the best by their high school coaches -- have all had miles of game tape sent out. That's why we assign one point for 0-stars at this point. In the end, they'll get something... most likely 2 stars. Maybe 3 if a kid has a super senior season. But we haven't seen a whole lot of guys who are 0s in July turn into 3s, 4s or 5s by the following February.

Of course, we don't believe recruiting rankings are infallible to begin with, but when we don't do our comparisons, readers complain. And as you and a few others have already proven, when we DO do the comparisons, other readers will complain.

One last note, you take to calling me a moron for apparently stating that UK would have to be considered a disappointment at this point due to six 0-star prospects on their list. But you yourself write that the 0 stars are given when Rivals doesn't "have the slightest friggin clue who the recruit is." I guess that means it's a good thing Kentucky is lining up guys that Rivals has never heard of.

In the end, this is free info. If you don't like it, you're free to go elsewhere.

John

Doc Johnson
Doc Johnson

http://www.rivals.com/aboutrankings.asp?Sport=1

"Players are also ranked on their quality with a star ranking. A five-star prospect is considered to be one of the nation's top 25-30 players, four star is a top 250-300 or so player, three-stars is a top 750 level player, two stars means the player is a mid-major prospect and one star means the player is not ranked."

johnmrsec
johnmrsec

adam...

If we were using ESPN or Scout numbers, we'd care. But we aren't. We use Rivals. We've always used Rivals. Just a matter of preference.

As for Rivals, as Doc Johnson has stated, their site had UT's commits as a 3-star and a 0-star as of yesterday afternoon.

John

johnmrsec
johnmrsec

Harold Stone...

As of posting time yesterday, these numbers were accurate according to Rivals.com, as we said in the piece.

John

UKFan
UKFan

John it is indeed your website and it is a free country for you to write whatever you wish. Just don't be offended when you are called out for writing incorrect information.

Please, just look at the facts of the last 2 UK recruiting classes, it will probably shock you that we did not sign 25 guys with O to 2 star ratings. We actually signed recruits who were better than inking a dead body, they were not zero stars! I guarantee you, I promise you, these 6 commits who are right now 0 star and thus in your eyes makes us a "disappointment" will mostly end up 3* prospects on Rivals.com. Again, check our 2010 and 2011 recruiting classes if you think I'm just being a blind homer, almost all 3* and above.

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